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memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 10h

I feel like Biden was a much bigger wrecker with the "only God himself could get me to step down" stunt he pulled. He seems like a more ptertinent target for your anger.

What an egomaniac.

memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 10h

The problem with your question is that you have yet to demonstrate that we did get Trump elected. "Do you still beat your wife" ass question.

memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 10h

No. The Dems were already completely deadset on being murderers who belong in the Hague. I never once said Trump would be better, and I don't begrudge anyone who did plug their noses to vote for the shit candidate.

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memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 10h

Also, I feel like the unstated assumption there was "as long as she doesn't send out an official campaign representative to reaffirm their stance of being pro-civilian murder".

The kind of thing that's so obvious it shouldn't even need to be stated. It's called "new information".

memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 10h

So you're saying that we can't just take her statements at face value in a campaign, we have to consider she might just be saying whatever needs to be said to appease people?

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memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 10h

This is literally just a single web page, the "campaign webpage" link at the bottom is just a self link.

What insider information do they have access to that we don't?

memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 10h

Neither of those had anything to do with "uncommitted".

Were those even two of the "core" demands of the movement?

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memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 10h

Wait, what on earth are you talking about?

The reason Biden got dropped was because he had to be all but dragged out by insiders after flubbing so many public appearances.

She said herself the reason she picked Walz was because she didn't like how "ambitious" Shapiro seemed.

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memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 10h

Also, if the Dem VP did a Nazi salute on stage, and "voices" attacked people who kept defending them after that, would they be wrong for that?

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memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 10h

Did those voices cause her to lose?

If the protests never happened, would that have reversed course on her losing the popular vote along with every single swing state?

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memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 10h

Wait a minute, the inciting line for this argument was "she was much better than Trump on Gaza".

But now the implication of your last line has shifted to "there was no way to save Gaza in 2024"?

memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 10h

So the answer to my question is "if orgs refused to endorse the Dem candidate because of their pro-Apartheid South Africa stance, that would be the wrong thing to do"?

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memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 10h

So the answer to my question is "it's the fault of trans people if they don't vote for that"?

memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 10h

And then to be told it's *my* fault this shit strategy keeps failing?

The glibness is really.just a lid to keep "the complete mental breakdown" from boiling over.

memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 10h

I am on the verge of insanity watching this shit play out, watching these fucking idiots repeat their mistakes over and over, trying appeasement towards the fascists for the twentieth goddamn time.

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memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 10h

I watched them lurch right on this, immigration, trans rights, and criminal justice, tell me to go fuck myself when I brought up my concerns about this, lose in exactly the way I predicted, and then decide that they were too far left and they should double down on their worst impulses in 2025.

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memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 11h

Also, I ask you again: Did those pro-genocide Democrats help Bibi?

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memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 11h

If the Dems came out in favor of Apartheid South Africa, and people got angry at them for that, would that also be an example of "helpijg Trump get elected"?

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memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 11h

I live in a state where the idea of it ever turning red is laughable. Objectively not my fault, actually.

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memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 11h

Does that include the Democrats who spent so much time giving him what he wants? Becauee I distinctly remember the sentiment among liberals at the time was "How fucking dare you! Israel is a trusted friend of the US who would *never* betray our trust like that!"

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memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 11h

Let me rephrase it: The Dems are pretty clearly moving to double down on transphobia. If they lose votes because of that, whose fault is it that they lost those votes?

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memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 11h

Well done dodging my question. A+ in the mental gymnastics.

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memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 11h

Also, something I've noticed is you keep referring to "Bibi" as if he's out there murdering all of those Palestinians with his own two hands. Just Bibi, and Bibi alone seemingly.

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memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 11h

Yet we're not allowed to use the guy speaking on behalf of her campaign *seven days prior to the election* as an indicator of the direction she would've moved in?

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memtams.bsky.social @memtams.bsky.social · 11h

If the Dems adopted an anti-choice platform of saying that people who get abortions are baby killers who need to be sent to prison, and they lost a bunch of pro-choice votes as a result, whose fault is it that those votes were lost?

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