Philip and Rollie TF, rememberer of Aggie
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44 year old stay at home cat dad. Disabled. Adores almost everyone and I have a playful nature. Aggie was a badass who survived fires unscathed. Passed on August 2023. Rollie is new family, a curious and ridiculous fellow, 4 yo. Chinga la migra.
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If you go to jail and can be written to in that jail, because you resist this government in some way, or oppose ICE in some way: I will write to you for the duration.

Feel free to tell a lawyer, or a random person, to get in touch with me and I'll make sure to write you as regularly as possible.
ripperelse.bsky.social
I don't know what modules are but I'll find someone for you ASAP.

P.S. are you able to relocate to Antarctica?
ripperelse.bsky.social
and that may well have been when your grandparents came through!!!
ripperelse.bsky.social
If these are not insults, then I'd hate to be insulted by you.
ripperelse.bsky.social
And from 1940 to 1954 Ellis was still open but acting under the Alien Registry Act which means they DID give identity papers. This is just not when most people are talking about. But I wanted to include this. Ellis functioned more how people imagined it did for this brief window in it's lifetime.
ripperelse.bsky.social
I offer this only in that I hope it gives some clarity about how... unclear it can all quickly become. And these legal processes could be opaque to immigrants, and misunderstood (through no fault of their own), or different parts conflated. That's not dishonesty.
ripperelse.bsky.social
After 1940 the Alien Registration act required people over 14 to be fingerprinted and identified at ports of entry, changing the system.
ripperelse.bsky.social
it's in this way that the names on manifests (rarely changed by Ellis but still occasionally altered, and obviously recorded and quite possibly changed at port of departure) became tied to the names in a person's official documents - through naturalization.
ripperelse.bsky.social
But if you did not apply for citizenship, no one would ever know what name you had once you were in the US. Ellis didn't give ID documents or anything. You were just free to say you were whoever you wanted. No proof needed until you wanted to naturalize.
ripperelse.bsky.social
When you applied for naturalization (citizenship) the paperwork required name, place of birth, date of birth. Giving your name by way of proof you could reference the shipping manifest records kept at places like Ellis Island. That might well be the only proof of name you have.
ripperelse.bsky.social
so here's a brief set of notes to hopefully help with clarity

From 1906 on there was a standardized set of papers to fill out if you wanted to become a citizen. Immigration locations like ellis would keep passenger manifest records that alone didn't do anything. But
ripperelse.bsky.social
you can get a grilled cheese for just 12 dollars! lolol
ripperelse.bsky.social
Which is bullshid. Obviously Smilla desired higher quality service!
ripperelse.bsky.social
Facts may be distractions to you. But they're not to me.

I've been accused of pedantry many times, yes. I don't doubt whatsoever that you see me that way. What is pedantic is based on what you think is excessive. That's subjective I think.

I've heard you. You don't need to keep insulting me.
ripperelse.bsky.social
Before 1920 Ellis was to screen people for illness and disability (as they were conceived of at the time).If you passed the screening you were sent through to America without documentation, no papers, no particular records. There wasn't ID as we think of it now. No idea of name transferred off EI.
ripperelse.bsky.social
Ellis didn't provide documents or identification to the people who went through. No one would have had any idea they said yes to Feldman once they were in the US proper.

It would not have followed them unless they kept using that name, maybe because they believed they were supposed to.
ripperelse.bsky.social
It just moves the change from inside Ellis back to the passenger lists, or forward to another interaction with the government. It doesn't deny it happened, just the detail of who in particular did it.
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Yeah. That's why I feel the need to do it. I just also always flinch.
ripperelse.bsky.social
No. I know it's not a quirk. The compulsion (using this word loosely) is because I think it's the right thing to do. That people can include facts and corrections and that this does not undermine other people - it doesn't undermine me when done to me.
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yeah I listened to an anthropologist review the book and the first 70k pages made them insane with stuff like this