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Totally agree, think Messi/Ronaldo broke people’s brains a bit. Rooney seems to be highly respected still despite going to DC at only* 32
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On what metric?

I don’t think the line up was conservative, I see Merino as an attacking 8, and Calafiori as a chaos merchant.

I think the balance of Rice & Merino doesn’t work. Merino not a creative 8, him and Rice largely replicate each other.
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I mean, we were also held to nothing…
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This season? Just wouldn’t agree it was a domination at all. Game was sleepwalking to a 0-0.

No it can’t, just a terrible record of results, and acknowledgement it’s not worked today either with half time subs. Feels poor analysis to say it works, or just not watching the games.
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I mean, at some point you’re just talking about things that happen in football games. A good midfield impacts games and changes results. Do you honestly watch that midfield and think it works well?
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Football’s a game of results, hate it or love it. Like in sales, you’d take a high performer who hits quota over one that consistently doesn’t. I think you’re conflating a goal of challenging, with a goal of winning.
https://winning.it’s
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Winning is also a binary objective. I say this all a season ticket holder and massive Arteta fan.
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‘Last time’ is the relevant word here. Objectively the coach has not won a competition since 2020. There comes a point where winning nothing is untenable, if the objective is actually winning. The cutoff point for execs, fans, media etc will vary wildly, but there is a cut off point.
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Sacking a coach who consistently falls short of winning is straightforwardly not crazy. If the goal is actually winning.
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Warm up. A lot. More important than stretching.
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There’s a clear world where a guy with Gyok’s physical tools, shot volume, and mentality could bag ~20 Prem goals with Ødegarrd / Saka / Noni feeding him. Laca never had the physicals, the raw underlyings, or the mentals.
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I think we just want different - and I think that’s ok. Some want more of a dribbler. Some want a finisher. Some want a creator.
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Feels like they’ve jumped headfirst into Apple’s ‘we support creators with tools’ lane, especially with the Veo, Flow and music stuff.
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Nice, does the picture change much on goals alone taking assists out the picture?
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Not really, the logic is pretty straightforward. If psxG overlooks chunks of data (statistical and non), it’s likely a world class finisher also does those things better than an average/poor finisher. So it follows they’re more likely to score from an identical psxG shot
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I don’t think it does, it’s an excellent metric, but a proxy, and I think shows you’re basically looking for near perfection in data.
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I'm pretty sure I didn't say we shot badly. My points been high output finishers are more likely to score an identical psxG shot, than a poor finisher. Not saying we're poor, but Mbappe & Salah are better finishers than Martinelli & Trossard, and its borne out in the actual goals scored column
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Haha, I do like it. And likewise if I'd known you'd gone down the 'data is perfect' rabbit hole
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psxG/xGOT aren't perfect representations of finishing quality, they're proxies. Lots of things they don't capture, like balance, defensive pressure, disguise, Ramsdale being distracted by a pigeon...yes we could have scored more, but we consistently don't, underlying player quality matters
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Maybe we're talking past each other. Just nothing you've said really tracks with anything other than, we took good shots and the GK played well. Like there aren't players who could turn that into we took good shots and scored 2 more goals more often
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A 20% shot taken by Trossard vs Mbappe is more likely to be scored by Mbappe. There’s more to finishing than placement, speed and keeper position. Surprise, curl, bounce, line of sight, etc matter. Unless you genuinely believe large sample data perfectly explains differences in finishing outcomes?
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The argument is better players take better shots. Sure across a large sample of data they’re likely to go in. I don’t have it, but I’d be stunned if the data didn’t show high output players produce more of the outlier data - aka they score more because their shots are simply better
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That doesn’t chance much. Higher output players place better, with more speed, etc. They deliver more output for a reason, the do it consistently, across multiple years.
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Ok, so why look for good finishers at all? Just make the chances, no difference if its Martinelli, Mbappe or Armando Broja taking it. I rate our players, but historical data shows high output players score more from the same chances, and from lower quality chance. Finishing is a skill.
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Then I don't understand your point. Yes players take good and bad shots, sure. GKs have good games, sure. Better players convert chances at a higher clip, which is the most important part of attacking. Even if you think shinning it / poor contact doesn't count..