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December 2, 2025 at 6:36 PM
(Which is still Checo erasure)
December 2, 2025 at 6:32 PM
We must’ve overlooked in OP where it says “Max’s first good teammate since he knows how to drive”
December 2, 2025 at 6:29 PM
Yea I was about to say

And Ricciardo’s impressively rotten luck in 2018 make a comparison of that year frankly difficult
December 2, 2025 at 6:21 PM
But also provides an interesting if not spot on comparison to your question

Checo achieved Max’s first good teammate in 2022-2023, and then 2024 lost all confidence.

Was that worth it? Questionable, though ofc he now gets the Caddy arc

But he was also late career when joining Red Bull
December 2, 2025 at 6:07 PM
Checo 2022 erasure
December 2, 2025 at 6:04 PM
If you’re already going to be updating it

Is there a way to mark when new drivers came into the team?

Related, did you consider Max lead driver from the jump here, and if not when is the transition?

Or is lead driver just considered whoever had more points in the season?
December 2, 2025 at 4:59 PM
In what sense
December 2, 2025 at 3:43 PM
Just give us a single FP1. It’s all we need.
December 2, 2025 at 3:38 PM
I’ve seen this one before
December 2, 2025 at 1:47 PM
Would this include the headgear?
December 2, 2025 at 1:42 PM
Yes please! Feels like a good offseason deep dive
December 2, 2025 at 1:30 PM
This will make for good offseason discussion
December 2, 2025 at 5:36 AM
Sleigh bells? It’s a wrap
December 2, 2025 at 2:56 AM
Feels like a combo of:

Very popular song + a big stretch of what these lyrics are referencing
December 2, 2025 at 2:51 AM
this again is part of what makes next year so compelling

How will or won't this parity emerge from a clean technical slate?
December 1, 2025 at 11:10 PM
No, but you can make a case that Schumi at Ferrari ushered in an era of "one driver / one team" that did not exist before

1974-1999: 6 teams won WDC by 15 drivers
2000-2024: 6 teams won WDC (5 if you count Merc as Brawn) by 8 drivers
December 1, 2025 at 11:09 PM
absolutely. And McLaren, Williams, <Enstone> all went through terrible stretches and have had to build up

Then there is Ferrari....
December 1, 2025 at 11:03 PM
haha it certainly is a selective stat, and I was waiting for someone to poke at the Rosberg-sized hole

2010 & 2012 were cracking titles for sure, shows Vettel's championship mindset to win

2014 & 2016 were dominant Merc intra competitions

2021 we all know about

and this year. so 6/16 since 2010
December 1, 2025 at 11:00 PM
Absolutely. I think regardless of how this weekend goes we will look back on this year as most special, driving talent wise
December 1, 2025 at 10:34 PM
…as clearly Schumi’s Ferrari counts and even one could argue McLaren in the 80s

But since 2010 the pendulum has swung away from parity towards dominance, and has yet to show much signs of swinging back

Part of what makes the new regs next year so intriguing. And to a lesser extent this weekend
December 1, 2025 at 10:18 PM
…as they have performed as needed with the best machinery on the grid to achieve consistent glory. They should be considered among the short list of all-time greats in the sport

But the context of what it means to be great has surely shifted— maybe not starting in 2010…
December 1, 2025 at 10:09 PM