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April 4, 2025 at 8:33 PM
Updated after market close. S&P 500 is down >15% since Trump took office. See chart for how this compares to same period to date under prior presidential terms.
I don't have a good answer about whether he's lying. I give him the benefit of the doubt that his renunciation is sincere.
Read The Ox-Bow Incident for a parable about why not believing someone's claim of innocence has consequences too (and wrt current events, the need for due process).
Read The Ox-Bow Incident for a parable about why not believing someone's claim of innocence has consequences too (and wrt current events, the need for due process).
April 14, 2025 at 11:41 AM
I don't have a good answer about whether he's lying. I give him the benefit of the doubt that his renunciation is sincere.
Read The Ox-Bow Incident for a parable about why not believing someone's claim of innocence has consequences too (and wrt current events, the need for due process).
Read The Ox-Bow Incident for a parable about why not believing someone's claim of innocence has consequences too (and wrt current events, the need for due process).
I'm not defending white supremacy.
What I am advocating is a more productive engagement with your fellow citizens.
What I am advocating is a more productive engagement with your fellow citizens.
April 14, 2025 at 2:44 AM
I'm not defending white supremacy.
What I am advocating is a more productive engagement with your fellow citizens.
What I am advocating is a more productive engagement with your fellow citizens.
I'm simply defending the idea that people have the capacity to change, and that if a former racist is persuaded by your arguments to not be a racist anymore, then you should treat that as a positive outcome. Democracy works.
Great story here about Derek Black:
wapo.st/4lvRAhU
Great story here about Derek Black:
wapo.st/4lvRAhU
The white flight of Derek Black
A former heir to a racial nationalist movement reconsiders the ideology he once helped spread.
wapo.st
April 14, 2025 at 2:19 AM
I'm simply defending the idea that people have the capacity to change, and that if a former racist is persuaded by your arguments to not be a racist anymore, then you should treat that as a positive outcome. Democracy works.
Great story here about Derek Black:
wapo.st/4lvRAhU
Great story here about Derek Black:
wapo.st/4lvRAhU
I don't think that's a productive way to have a debate.
April 14, 2025 at 1:52 AM
I don't think that's a productive way to have a debate.
I think that in a democracy, ideas should be debated, instead of everyone trying to deplatform everyone else.
If you think he's still a racist, go on his podcast and make your argument about why he shouldn't be a racist.
People have the capacity to change:
www.nytimes.com/2016/11/26/o...
If you think he's still a racist, go on his podcast and make your argument about why he shouldn't be a racist.
People have the capacity to change:
www.nytimes.com/2016/11/26/o...
Opinion | Why I Left White Nationalism (Gift Article)
I grew up in a family that embraced extreme views. I’ve moved on. The country can, too.
www.nytimes.com
April 14, 2025 at 1:46 AM
I think that in a democracy, ideas should be debated, instead of everyone trying to deplatform everyone else.
If you think he's still a racist, go on his podcast and make your argument about why he shouldn't be a racist.
People have the capacity to change:
www.nytimes.com/2016/11/26/o...
If you think he's still a racist, go on his podcast and make your argument about why he shouldn't be a racist.
People have the capacity to change:
www.nytimes.com/2016/11/26/o...
Well if a person publically renounces their racist beliefs, that's progress and so maybe you should just take the win.
April 14, 2025 at 1:36 AM
Well if a person publically renounces their racist beliefs, that's progress and so maybe you should just take the win.
He can think the Civil Rights Act should be repealed without also being a racist.
Why don't you just ask him why he thinks it should be repealed? He says he's not a racist, so he must have some other reason.
Why don't you just ask him why he thinks it should be repealed? He says he's not a racist, so he must have some other reason.
April 14, 2025 at 1:35 AM
He can think the Civil Rights Act should be repealed without also being a racist.
Why don't you just ask him why he thinks it should be repealed? He says he's not a racist, so he must have some other reason.
Why don't you just ask him why he thinks it should be repealed? He says he's not a racist, so he must have some other reason.
To convince yourself whether he's still a "white supremacist grifter".
April 14, 2025 at 12:39 AM
To convince yourself whether he's still a "white supremacist grifter".
Why don't you just ask him what he thinks?
There's no need to litigate this on social media. Ask him and he'll probably have you on his podcast.
There's no need to litigate this on social media. Ask him and he'll probably have you on his podcast.
April 13, 2025 at 11:33 PM
Why don't you just ask him what he thinks?
There's no need to litigate this on social media. Ask him and he'll probably have you on his podcast.
There's no need to litigate this on social media. Ask him and he'll probably have you on his podcast.
Well who has the burden of proof?
He renounced his prior beliefs. This is your desired outcome.
So why don't you believe him? What would he need to do to convince you?
He renounced his prior beliefs. This is your desired outcome.
So why don't you believe him? What would he need to do to convince you?
April 13, 2025 at 11:22 PM
Well who has the burden of proof?
He renounced his prior beliefs. This is your desired outcome.
So why don't you believe him? What would he need to do to convince you?
He renounced his prior beliefs. This is your desired outcome.
So why don't you believe him? What would he need to do to convince you?
He says in the article to which you link that he doesn't hold those views anymore.
Isn't that your desired outcome?
Isn't that your desired outcome?
April 13, 2025 at 10:46 PM
He says in the article to which you link that he doesn't hold those views anymore.
Isn't that your desired outcome?
Isn't that your desired outcome?
Princess Leia says otherwise.
April 3, 2025 at 4:13 AM
Princess Leia says otherwise.