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Burning Questions for the Rest of the Season
It’s fall, and that means the days are getting a chillier, the leaves are beginning to fall, and the halloween decorations have been busted out. It also means that the NFL has been playing long enough for most teams around the league to have a good grasp on their strengths and weaknesses.  The Green Bay Packers are coming out of their bye (hopefully) rested, refocused, and ready to take on a stretch of their season that appears to be heavily tilted in their favor.  The Packers start the next portion of their schedule as 14 point favorites over the Cincinnati Bengals, before heading to Arizona for a contest with the reeling Cardinals. The week after that, the Packers are headed to Pittsburg, who have some guy named Aaron Rodgers playing QB for them. Lastly, the Packers head back to Green Bay for a home game against the Panthers, who are playing so poorly they made a local podcast covering the team quit in frustration.  Obviously the matchup with the Steelers in week 8 is the marquee event, and likely is the most narratively important matchup in the regular season since 2009, when Brett Favre came to town in purple and gold. But there’s a whole lot of football between now and then, and the team can’t afford to look ahead to it.  I recently took the opportunity to look back on how the team has answered the burning questions of the offseason during their first month of play. Today I’ll take a look at new questions that have developed over the course of the 2025 season, and what answers can find. Can the offensive line gel together In one of the most surprising developments of the 2025 season, the Packers offensive line, which was purported to be a major strength of the team, has fallen well short of expectations. The starting group of Walker-Banks-Jenkins-Rhyan-Tom had two top 50 draft selections in backup, with Jordan Morgan and Anthony Belton, and the newly acquired Darrian Kinard as a solid depth piece. Walker was playing out his contract year, and as a starting left tackle in the NFL, was looking forward to using a high level of play to parlay into in a major payday next offseason, either with the Packers or elsewhere (Sean Rhyan is in the same boat). Zach Tom and Aaron Banks had just gotten their own paydays this past offseason. And Elgton Jenkins was moving positions to replace the worst starter on the offensive line last year, Josh Myers. The plan looked solid on paper, but they don’t play the games there.  It starts with the injuries. In the team’s total snap opportunities,  Zach Tom has only played 11.7%, Aaron Banks has 27.7%. There’s been a game of musical chairs behind those two players, with Jordan Morgan splitting 89% of the team’s snaps at three different positions, Darian Kinnard has played 45.1% of snaps, and Anthony Belton has played 33.7% of snaps.  Another note to keep an eye on as the season progresses: the split between zone blocking and gap blocking when rushing the ball.  In 2024, that split was around 60-40, in favor of zone blocking. But going back to 2023 and 2022, it starts to look more like 65-35. The Packers have been trending to using more and more gap blocking schemes, starting last year and seemingly doubled down upon with the acquisition of heavier offensive linemen over the offseason. Now four games into the 2025 season, it’s 50-50, with only five total snaps more of zone blocking than man.  How will Christian Watson’s return impact the offense When Watson tore his ACL in week 18 last year, Packers fans were already bracing for the possibility of being without him for the entire 2025 season. Now, just five weeks into the season, he has returned to practicing in an official capacity with the team.  Watson has a 21 day window in which to return to the active roster, and there’s a possibility we could see him in limited snaps as early as this week against Cincinnati, though I think it’s more likely we’ll see him return against Arizona.   Watson’s return to the lineup means the return of one of the most athletically explosive receivers in the entire league. Watson’s ability to draw defenders to him is a major piece of Matt LaFleur’s offense, and one that Jordan Love will look to take advantage of early. Just look at his stat line from last year’s early Bears game for the proof of concept. Watson has a reputation for drops and injuries among certain Packers fans, but he actually has one of the lowest career drop percentages among the team’s receivers, and has played more games than Jameson Williams, who just received a massive contract from the Lions.  His impact in the lineup is felt as a route decoy, a blocker, and a downfield target. But with an already crowded receiver room, where does a fully active Christian Watson fit in? The most obvious, and exciting, use case for Christian Watson in the 2025 version of this offense is as a pairing with Matthew Golden. That combination of their speed on the field together is an absolute nightmare for defensive coordinators to stop. Look for the two to be bunched up together on the same side of the field, especially early on in Watson’s return, as an easy way for LaFleur to get Watson into the flow of the offense again.  Late last season, when the Packers were struggling against man coverage, and opposing teams were seeking to exploit this, Watson was by far the most effective counter the team had against it.  Pass game vs Run game If there’s something that Matt LaFleur has made plain this season, it’s that he really, really wants to run the ball.  Putting aside the discussion about aggressive vs conservative playcalling, which is a related but separate discussion, how does the split between runs and passes look for the offense moving forward? So far in 2025, the offense has run the football at the fourth highest rate in the NFL, at 45%. That’s only behind the Seahawks, Lions and Eagles. LaFleur has been vocal about his preference to map out gameplans according to rushing attempts, and not necessarily by rushing yards.  Having a high number of rushing attempts does lend your offense a number of advantages. The obvious ones are to set up play action passes later in the game, and tiring out the defense. There’s also the added ability to dictate terms and game flow to the defense more successfully, with an effective running game. A successful running game can also lend itself to a team like Green Bay who likes to spread out receiving targets equally as well. Remember LaFleur’s comment about his… distaste for WR1 discussion. When you’ve got an effective running game and a myriad of receiving options, the defense has no way of anticipating where the ball could go at any given moment.  On the other hand, when your QB is dealing the way Jordan Love was in that Dallas game, the question is begged: why would you ever take the ball out of his hands? A higher passing attempt average tends to result in higher EPA, points per game, and explosive plays. Love has made the most out of his opportunities this year, and has looked like a bona fide top ten quarterback this year.  When measured in EPA, the Packers have a +45.9 when passing, and a +3.7 when rushing. Jordan Love also leads the league in EPA in expected pass situations (i.e. third and long, two minute drills etc.)  With the run game struggling to find its sea legs, and coming off of the monster performance against Dallas, the team should (in my opinion) look to run the offense through Love’s arm over the next few weeks, especially against the Bengals and Cardinals.  What does the ceiling really look like for the cornerbacks? Will the real cornerback room please stand up? For a unit that looked as dominant as any other unit on the team through week three, boy did they crash back to Earth against the Cowboys. The question is why, and is there more of the same on the horizon? Similarly to the offensive line, the cornerbacks expected an uptick in play, via addition by subtraction. The Eric Stokes experiment was ended, with Nate Hobbs signed in his absence.  Now, Hobbs’ has been disappointing in his limited play, but the fact is that none of the corners looked great in Dallas. The Packers’ pass rush was, quite simply, stifled. The secondary suddenly felt all the weight of the defense on its shoulders alone, and couldn’t keep up with Dak Prescott seeing the face of god for 45 minutes.  The fact of the matter is that if the Packers want to get to the promised land, they’ve got to go through some of the best offensive lines in the league. If the secondary’s level of play is entirely predicated on the pass rush’s ability to affect the quarterback, that’s just a tough way to live. Injuries pending, the Packers have a Super Bowl caliber pass rush, as crazy as that still seems to say.  In order for the defense as a whole to become a Super Bowl-caliber unit, the cornerbacks must prove that the Dallas game was a fluke, and come up with their own positive contributions. They’ve proven to be productive in the area of pass breakups, but the real next step for the group has to be generating turnovers. Through these four games, the secondary has only intercepted two passes, and both of those have been from the safeties.  Does the defense have any more tricks up its sleeve? Look, I’ll admit this is a Micah Parsons question. His volume stats (4 tackles, 2.5 sacks) don’t jump off the page, but volume stats are for losers.  Micah is the ultimate chess piece, but I predicted that Packers fans would have to wait a bit before they could see that piece fully unleashed. Through the first four games that the Packers have played, that prediction has panned out and Micah has only played four total snaps off the line of scrimmage.  To me, the bye week presented Jeff Hafley the chance to introduce Micah into different roles within the defense, and the possibilities are endless. The Packers want to be a disguise-based defense, according to Evan Williams. When playing disguise defense, there’s a certain disadvantage to having to inherently play players out of position. For example, the simulated pressure concept that took the league by storm last season. You’re showing blitz, but end up only bringing four rushers, albeit from unorthodox spots, and dropping linemen into coverage. Naturally, a lineman isn’t going to be very good in coverage right? Not when you're dropping Parsons back, who has the speed to stick with almost any running back or tight end in the league. And that linebacker or safety you’re rushing, who wouldn’t be as good at doing it as others? Stick Micah in that spot. Now you’re still in an advantageous spot, personnel wise.  Expect a creative mind such as Hafley’s to begin to make full use of Parsons’ unicorn-like versatility in the next few games.  What is going on with the special teams Deep Sigh I don’t know what kind of ancient, special teams related eldritch being that the Packers pissed off within the past two decades, but boy, it has not taken it easy on the team.  Justis Mosqueda of Acme Packing Company is the resident special teams expert among the internetwide Packers-sphere, and he’s written extensively on the topic. In his most recent article on the subject, Mosqueda points to a Special Teams Scores chart, tracking the performance of special teams over the last twenty years. I’ll give you three guesses as to who is at the very bottom of that chart.  Mosqueda provides a number of possible explanations for the phenomena, which has obviously persisted over the course of multiple head coaches, general managers, and special teams coordinators during that twenty year stretch.  Unfortunately, the firing of Rich Bisaccia mid season is extremely unlikely, first to actually happen and second to ultimately help the problem. So that leaves the Packers with the question: can they figure this out mid-season, with the tools they already have, before it can really come back to bite them. We all remember how putrid the special teams were in 2021, how it cost the Packers a playoff game against San Francisco. In order for history to avoid repeating itself, the special teams needs something. What is that something? I don’t know.  Playing more starters on teams could be a solution, but there seems to be an institutional aversion to the practice in Green Bay. We can only hope that Bisaccia and LaFleur have been putting their heads together over the bye, and that extra time in the film room has been dedicated to those issues.   I’d also be curious to see if the Packers exit their bye trying the “dirty kickoff” that they saw firsthand in Dallas, which has also been employed by the Panthers and the Rams. Simply explained, with the new kickoff rules, a kickoff that lands in the endzone is given a touchback that starts at the 35. But if the kick bounces in the field of play into the endzone, the touchback is rewarded at the 20. That’s 15 free yards just waiting to be exploited! If the team doesn’t at least attempt this, I’d be very curious to hear the answer why. Conclusion The NFL is constantly evolving, and it has a way of humbling even the best teams. Three weeks ago the Packers were on top of the football world, riding high off wins against the Lions and Commanders. Now? They’ve got a multitude of questions to answer, and ground to make up in the race for the NFC North. Even after beating the Lions to start the year, Detroit is once again favored to win the division.  The football gods have granted Green Bay every opportunity in the world to attempt to figure this thing out. An early bye, and a few lower tier opponents to try to get it right against. The same team that took it to Detroit and Washington is still there. It’s time they go out and prove it.   Filed Under: FeaturedKalani Jones PLEASE SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CHEESEHEAD NATION WEEKLY NEWSLETTER HERE. __________________________ Co-Owner of the thirteen time world champion Green Bay Packers. Sometimes I write about them. Follow me on Twitter at https://x.com/kjones_in_co and on Substack for film breakdowns! __________________________   NFL Categories: Green Bay PackersTags: Green Bay PackersMatt LaFleurJordan LoveMicah ParsonsNFL Breakdowns Like 0 points
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Confessions of a Polluted Mindset - Hit Pause and Reset
Is there ever a year where the bye doesn't seem to come at the perfect time for our Green Bay Packers? My guess cause is the usual up and down nature of a typical Packers season, but that likely applies to the majority of NFL teams in the age of parity. Of course, we all likely let out a collective groan when the schedule was first revealed and the Packers drew the earliest possible bye, But after the last two games, where special teams were anything but and the defense went back to it's old poor tackling ways, I'm sure the coaches appreciate the extra week to take a breath, self scout, and identify what they do well and what should be avoided. And let's not forget the Packers' walking wounded who will benefit greatly from an extra week of rest. Aaron Banks and Zach Tom are both back practicing. If there's anything the Packers offense could really use, it would be a return to normalcy on their offensive line. I'm hoping they can get back to the five they started the season with and if Sean Rhyan struggles, bring Morgan into that spot. The Packers are 3-3 the week after the bye under Matt LaFleur, but the wins have been close and the losses have not. The net result is a -31 point differential over those six games.  The Jeff Hafley coaching tree is off to a strong start. After only one year with the Packers as their linebackers coach and run game coordinator, Anthony Campanile is transforming what was previously a woeful Jaguars defense. After five games, they lead the league with 10 interceptions, are 6th in forced fumbles with 5, 8th in points allowed (The Packers are 10th) and 11th in rushing yards allowed (the Packers are 2nd), Campanile has that old school, fiery coach demeanor that pairs well with coaching defense. The Packers defense has been really good (minus the Dallas game), but I wish my New Jersey paisano would have stuck around for one more year with Hafley and the Packers. I don't care how good Chrisitian Watson looks (and he looks great!), there's no way the Packers should or will activate him for this week.  I'm calling this a revenge game with Joe Flacco now a Bengal (even though Flacco was not the reason the Browns won that game, the Packers simply lost it themselves). For Matthew Golden, it really is time they start giving him more targets downfield. Stop with the jet sweeps, let Savion Williams be that guy. Golden doesn't seem to have a natural feel for when or where to cut on those possessions. That doesn't mean he can't develop it eventually, but using Golden to do what Jayden Reed was doing is not taking advantage of what Golden does best, which is get open and catch the football. #Go Pack Go Filed Under: FeaturedJersey Al Bracco   PLEASE SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CHEESEHEAD NATION WEEKLY NEWSLETTER HERE. __________________________ "Jersey Al" Bracco is the Editor-In-Chief, part owner and wearer of various hats for CheeseheadTV.com and PackersTalk.com. He's a lifetime Packers fan living in the land of the Giants (and Jets). Follow Al on twitter at @JerseyalGBP.  __________________________ NFL Categories: Cincinnati BengalsGreen Bay PackersTags: green bay packersPolluted Mindset2025 Like 0 points
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Monday Musings: These Packers Need to Play Better
The Packers are about a quarter of the way through the 2025 season, but it’s hard to know who the Packers are yet. After two impressive wins against Detroit and Washington, the Packers looked like the best team in the league. Both the offense and defense looked like juggernauts. That all changed against Cleveland. The Browns began to expose some of the Packers’ deficiencies, and some of the concerns that had been present going into the season started to surface. The bye week came at a much-needed time, so the Packers can address these issues before it’s too late. Usually, Monday’s musings are about an aspect of the most recent game, but the bye week offered a week without Packers’ football led to different musings, and honestly, more questions than answers. The Packers have shown both glimpses of moments of brilliance and moments of ineptitude. The awesome moments aren’t a fluke, but neither are the head-scratching occasions. It’s not the time to sound the alarm. There is a lot of football left, and the Packers are still a good football team, but it’s clear they aren’t perfect. The offensive line needs to improve. There are concerns about the defensive line. There is also uncertainty at the cornerback position. If the Packers want to get back to being one of the best teams in the NFL, they will need players to step up to answer some of these questions. The Big Ugly’s Play Has Been Ugly It’s no secret that the Packers’ offensive line hasn’t played very well lately. The Packers have already had eight linemen forced into action. The interior of the Packers’ offensive line has played particularly poorly. Injuries have forced a couple of players to play positions they aren’t comfortable playing. There’s an argument to be made that all eight need to play better, but many of the Packers’ offensive line struggles boil down to three players: Elgton Jenkins, Aaron Banks, and Sean Rhyan. When the Packers let Josh Myers walk in free agency and reports surfaced that Elgton Jenkins would be moving from left guard to center, there was a lot of optimism that this move would be a net gain for the offensive line. Myers hadn’t played well, and Jenkins had played the position before at a high level. Unfortunately, the move looks to be anything but seamless. Jenkins has been inconsistent in pass protection and struggled to move bodies in the run game. Jenkins even looks disinterested at times. It hasn’t been good enough for the guy who is supposed to be the leader of the offensive line room. While Jenkins is playing a new position this year, it’s a position he’s played in the past. He’s also been healthy and played 100% of the snaps. Through four games, Jenkins has given up two sacks and five hurries. PFF has given Jenkins an overall grade of 59.0, a run block grade of 58.3, and a pass block grade of 64.7. While PFF’s grading system has its share of flaws, it seems notable that these grades are all the lowest of Jenkins' career. He hasn’t been bad, but for a player with a cap hit of $17.6 million, he needs to be better. Rumors have been circulating that Jenkins could be a cap casualty next offseason, and if he keeps playing like this, 2025 will be Jenkins' last as a Packer. A day after Elgton Jenkins said “I’ve played like shit” Matt LaFleur called it a “mature response.” “He’s one of our better players so in order to win games in this league, you need your best players to play at their best. It wasn’t just him. It was all of us, myself included.” pic.twitter.com/erLGLtmGwf — Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) September 25, 2025 Jenkins' “replacement” at left guard hasn’t been very good, either. The Packers made a pretty sizable investment in Aaron Banks in free agency by giving him a four-year, $77 million contract with $27 million guaranteed. This contract makes him one of the highest-paid guards in the NFL. Up to this point, his performance has not matched the financial investment. Banks has been battling a slew of injuries, dating back to training camp. It has impacted both his performance and his availability. It’s hard to criticize anyone for injuries because they are inevitable in football, but even when Banks is on the field, he’s been bad. Durability has never been Banks’ calling card. Since signing with Green Bay, Banks has dealt with injuries to his back, ankle, and groin. Banks has only played 74 snaps this season - 43 against Detroit and 31 against Cleveland. He’s given up a sack and two pressures. His pass block efficiency of 96.2 would rank 75th amongst NFL guards. PFF has given him an overall grade of 38.3, a run block grade of 41.6, and a pass block grade of 33.9. All three grades are well below average. Because of his contract, Banks is going to play if he’s healthy, but the Packers have arguably been better when Banks isn’t on the field. Sean Rhyan was a reliable fixture on the Packers’ offensive line last season. He wasn’t flashy or elite, but he generally got the job done. Over 1,027 offensive snaps, he gave up four sacks and had a pass block efficiency of 96.9. Rhyan entered the 2025 season as the expected starter at right guard once again. He didn’t see much competition throughout most of training camp, but once the season started, he found himself in a timeshare with Jordan Morgan. Initially, that seemed like a peculiar move by the Packers coaches, but it’s fairly easy to understand it now. Rhyan has played 250 snaps (around 95%) at right guard this season. His Week 1 performance against Detroit was impressive. He alternated series with Morgan for a while, but he didn’t allow any pressures or sacks. His pass block efficiency was 100. It’s been downhill from there. Over the last three games, Rhyan has allowed ten pressures and a sack. He’s also been called for three penalties. His pass block efficiency on the season is 95.6, which is 82nd amongst all guards who have played. PFF has given him an overall grade of 53.5, a run block grade of 60.0, and a pass block grade of 37.9. Rhyan isn’t exactly having himself a very good season for a player in a contract year. The most important job for the Packers’ offensive line is to protect Jordan Love. As a team, they have allowed 49 pressures, which is the 13th most in the league. Their team pass block efficiency is 79.3, which is 30th in the league. Simply put, they need to be better, and it starts with the guys on the interior. Jenkins and Banks are being paid as if they are amongst the top guys at their positions. Sean Rhyan has shown reliability before. None of the three is living up to expectations, and the Packers need all three to play better if they are going to take the next step offensively. Nixon Can’t Do It Alone The Packers need someone to step up at the second cornerback position. With Nate Hobbs missing the first game of the season due to a knee injury he suffered in the preseason, Valentine got the nod as the starting cornerback opposite Keisean Nixon. Hobbs returned in Week 2 but was limited. Hobbs played more snaps in both Weeks 3 and 4, but both players have seen time opposite Keisean Nixon. The problem is that neither has really separated itself from the other. Valentine was impressive both in Week 1 and Week 2. Over 77 coverage snaps, he only allowed two receptions for 20 yards. He technically gave up a touchdown against Detroit, but that was on an incredible catch by Isaac TeSlaa. Valentine was only targeted six times total. After missing Week 1, Hobbs played pretty well in Week 2 despite playing a limited number of snaps. He was only targeted once over 27 snaps in coverage and didn’t give up a catch. Both Valentine and Hobbs played decently in Week 3 against Cleveland. For the first time all season, Hobbs played twice as many snaps as Valentine. He gave up one catch for seven yards. Valentine was targeted twice, but didn’t give up a catch. On paper, that seems pretty impressive, but that might have more to do with how poorly Cleveland played offensively and less to do with Hobbs or Valentine. Cleveland’s Joe Flacco-led passing attack was subpar, to say the least. Week 4 was a nightmare for both players. Hobbs started the game and played 27 snaps in coverage, but Dak Prescott was just picking on him. Hobbs gave up four catches for 55 yards and two touchdowns. The Packers inserted Valentine in the second half, but he was just as bad. Valentine only played 16 coverage snaps, but gave up five receptions for 72 yards and a touchdown. Both performances were ones to forget. Dak Prescott had a passer rating of 135.4 when targeting Hobbs and 158.3 when targeting Valentine. Almost all of the Cowboys’ pass catchers had an average separation of over three yards. This is only the 2nd TD Carrington Valentine has allowed in his career. And his first since week 14, 2023. Made him earn it. pic.twitter.com/3RR1ePoYxr — Jacob Morley (@JacobMorley) September 8, 2025 The Packers gave Nate Hobbs a nice contract over the offseason - four years, $48 million with $16 million guaranteed. They paid him to be a starter. Unfortunately, he missed the majority of training camp and is still getting back up to full speed. Hobbs is also still getting acclimated to primarily playing cornerback on the boundary. Over four years with the Raiders, Hobbs played 1,675 snaps in the slot, 419 snaps in the box, and 845 snaps as an outside cornerback. He’s spent most of his time inside in the slot. The Packers seem to prefer Javon Bullard in the slot, so Hobbs is seeing most of his time as an outside corner, and it’s evident. Opposing quarterbacks have a 109.2 passer rating when targeting Hobbs this season, which is the highest of his career. He’s also allowing 12.4 yards per reception, which is also the highest of his career. Carrington Valentine has only ever played outside corner. Now in his third season, he has been serviceable every time he’s gotten an opportunity. Valentine played 908 coverage snaps over his first two seasons, and the opponent passer rating when targeting Valentine was 83.2. This year, quarterbacks have a 116.0 passer rating when targeting Valentine. He’s also allowing 13.1 yards per reception. Both numbers are the highest of his career. The Packers need one of these two players to step up and show they can be a serviceable cornerback. They don’t need to be lockdown corners, but they need to be better. Based on how playing time was trending before the bye week, Hobbs will likely see the bulk of the snaps. Hobbs is the better tackler and more effective against the run. He is also being paid a lot more money than Valentine. That said, Valentine will still see playing time. If he can bounce back and show Jeff Hafley he can be a strong option at outside cornerback, he will get more and more playing time. The Packers need one of these two to step up if they want the defense to return to top form. The Interior Design Needs a Remodel The Packers entered 2025 with some real question marks on the defensive line. The move to acquire Micah Parsons shored up the edge position, but trading away Kenny Clark left a lot of unknown on the interior. The Packers expected Devonte Wyatt to make a leap, but after that, no one really knew what they had. Through the first four games, Wyatt was playing well. Unfortunately, Wyatt exited the last two games with a knee injury. The players who replaced him were not good. Ultimately, the Packers will need someone to step up on the interior, or opponents will exploit this part of the Packers’ defense. Colby Wooden has started all four games opposite Wyatt. He has played 140 total snaps, 60 against the run and 80 against the pass. He’s been credited with two total pressures, six tackles, five assisted tackles, and six run stops. Overall, Wooden’s performance has been very average. He’s better at rushing the passer than he is against the run. PFF has given him an overall grade of 62.9, a run defense grade of 50.2, and a pass rush grade of 73.4. He can be moved off his spot quite easily in the run game. Wooden has been okay in his current role, but he’s going to need to step it up if Wyatt can’t be on the field. Karl Brooks had an underwhelming preseason, and that’s carried over into the regular season. He’s played 160 total snaps across four games, 35 snaps against the run and 125 against the pass. He’s generated 11 total pressures and a sack. He has also recorded four tackles, one assisted tackle, and four stops. On the season, Brooks has earned an overall PFF grade of 54.4, a run defense grade of 50.7, and a pass rush grade of 62.1. The Packers are clearly trying to keep him off the field in obvious running situations, and it’s clear to see why. He’s much more effective as a pass rusher. When Wyatt was forced to miss time due to injury, Nazir Stackhouse was the biggest beneficiary. Stackhouse only played 21 snaps through the first three games as a situational defender against the run. He was decent in this role. Stackhouse then played 27 snaps against Dallas, and his performance was bad. This season, Stackhouse has two pressures, two tackles, and an assisted tackle. PFF gave him an overall grade of 38.3, a run defense grade of 32.8, and a pass rush grade of 61.7. When forced into more action, Stackhouse’s deficiencies were exposed. If Wyatt isn’t healthy, the Packers' options on the interior are concerning. The Packers’ run defense is going to suffer. None of Wooden, Brooks, or Stackhouse has shown they can handle being at the point of attack against the run. Either Jeff Halfley is going to work his magic, or one of these guys is going to have to step up. There’s a world where Warren Brinson could start seeing some time, too, but until he’s active, it would be unfair to assume anything from him. Cleveland and Dallas started to expose this hole in the Packers' defense. Either the Packers figure it out, or more teams are going to expose this obvious weakness. Nazir Stackhouse (#93) vs the run pic.twitter.com/csmAUWIJY3 — Justis Mosqueda (@JuMosq) September 30, 2025 PLEASE SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CHEESEHEAD NATION WEEKLY NEWSLETTER HERE. __________________________ Carter Semb is a lifelong Packer fan, shareholder, and season ticket holder. He is a contributor for Cheesehead TV and Packers Talk. For commentary surrounding Wisconsin sports, he can be found on X at @cmsemb. __________________________ Like 0 points
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Pretty sure Gutekunst would have traded Rodgers if he'd been in complete control of football operations like Ted and Ron were.
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No he can come back at any time throughout the season.
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The same Rodgers who was struggling to regain his MVP form prior to LaFleur's arrival? Interesting.
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He was also then handed a brand new starting quarterback and the youngest team in the league three years in a row while not missing the playoffs. Different challenges. The numbers are the numbers though.
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If it doesn't apply to you, it doesn't apply to you. But I promise you there are plenty of hysterical fans out there that it readily does.
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With a win this week, LaFleur will have 68 wins in his first 100 games as head coach, tying Holmgren in Packers history. He's an excellent coach that has flaws, just like any other coach, including guys like Tomlin and Reid who were killed by their respective fan bases prior to winning it all.
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Answering The Questions Around Matt LaFleur
The Packers aren't undefeated, so naturally people want Matt LaFleur fired and are questioning his abilities. Since we have some time over the bye week, I'm gonna debunk some of the nonsense floating around about Matt LaFleur. This isn't a puff piece about why I love MLF and how he's a swell guy because "no one who writes about the Packers will say anything bad about him." Nonsense. I'm a Packers fan. I want the Packers to win. Period. This is an analysis of what Matt LaFleur has done. If he's not doing a good job, I don't want him coaching the team I love. A lot of people seem to think he's not doing a good job. So let's start with the most common thing I've seen asked: What does Matt LaFleur do well? I can't believe how much this question gets asked, but I'm going to partially answer it here (because a full answer would take too long). One thing he does really well is develop quarterbacks. You know, the most important position to a team in any sport in the world? An absolute prerequisite to winning at football in the modern era NFL? Look through his career in Atlanta, Washington, Los Angeles, and Tennessee. Everywhere he went, quarterbacks had career years. When he came to Green Bay, it was no different. He turned Aaron Rodgers's career around, transforming him from a washed up has-been to a back-to-back MVP. And when Rodgers left, LaFleur turned Jordan Love from a supposedly over-drafted prospect to one of the most effective quarterbacks in the league. Oh, but those are just traits for a quarterbacks coach, you say? Well, he's also a great game planner and play schemer. He can pencil whip the best DCs in the game and routinely puts his players in position to succeed. Look at Jordan Love's first game as the full time starter. Playing a tough Bears defense, in a high stress game, LaFleur put Love in a position where he just had to hit open receivers all day. And he did, to the tune of 245 yards, 3 touchdowns, 0 interceptions, and a 123.2 quarterback rating. A couple weeks later, when the team was down 17 against New Orleans, he called a near flawless fourth quarter so his young team could march up and down the field and score at will to pull out a come from behind victory that not only mattered in the playoff standings at the end of the season, but gave this team a belief in themselves and their new quarterback that carried over through the rest of the season. I shouldn't have to tell you what happened in the rest of the season when LaFleur designed gameplans that gave Jordan Love the ability to thrive. It was one of the most productive back halves to a season this franchise has ever seen. The following year, he adapted his gameplanning around Love's injury, winning three games with Malik Willis (who the league valued as a throwaway bust barely worth a 7th rounder, and who is a completely different type of quarterback than Love, who the entire offense was built around). For a true display of LaFleur's play calling prowess, look no further than their come from behind win against Jacksonville where LaFleur patiently called at least three plays to set up the Jayden Reed crosser in the waning moments that easily put the Packers in position for the game winning field goal. All this when the starting quarterback got hurt mid game and the offense had to adapt to the backup again. Oh, but those are just traits for an Offensive Coordinator, you say? He's also instilled a culture that his players love. You see it in how veteran free agents speak about the Green Bay Packers locker room and approach compared to the franchises they came from. You hear it in their voice in the interview. These guys are bought into the vision and the culture. LaFleur has them focused and they don't experience the player drama that other teams do. Oh, but none of that matters if they aren't winning, you say? Well, he's also a proven winner. His .670 winning percentage is top five among active coaches, and his 67 wins in his first six season seasons is the second best mark in NFL history. Oh, but he can't win big games, you say?  He's won those, too. And not just with Aaron Rodgers, who he took to back-to-back NFC Conference Championship games.  In Jordan Love's first season as the Packers starter, he led them to 3 straight wins in must-win games to end the season. Then he went into Dallas and obliterated the one seed with brilliant game planning.  That was impressive. There is no denying that playoff games are big games. He got Aaron Rodgers to win big games, and had the team fighting in close playoff games. His playoff losses were all a lot closer than his playoff wins. What he did with Jordan Love in the playoffs during his first season was nothing short of brilliance. Has he lost some playoff games? Sure, everyone has. No one wins them all. Not even the Belichick-era Patriots won all their big games. Oh, but they haven't won a Super Bowl, you say? Most coaches haven't. Most coaches never do. That's a high bar, and most franchises would laugh at the notion that winning a Super Bowl determines if a coach is good or not. Look at how the Packers lost those games. Late drives given up by the defense. Brutal disasters from special teams. Those are areas that Matt LaFleur doesn't control. Oh, then he should fire his coordinators, you say? That's a murky situation in Green Bay where decision rights on moves like that are a shared accountability, not the sole discretion of the head coach. But it hasn't been stale. They've hired three defensive coordinators (Pettine, Barry, and Hafley) and three special teams coordinators (Mennenga, Drayton, and Bisaccia) during LaFleur's six seasons as head coach. They aren't exactly sitting on their hands - that's a pretty high turnover rate. That's the action and accountability you want. In terms of developing quarterbacks, designing an offense, calling a game suited to his players, winning games, advancing to the playoffs, and winning playoff games - all the things you want out of a head coach - Matt LaFleur has done more than most coaches in the league. Don't knock a guy who's great just because he isn't perfect. Filed Under: Green Bay PackersBruce Irons   PLEASE SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CHEESEHEAD NATION WEEKLY NEWSLETTER HERE. __________________________ Bruce Irons has played, coached, and studied football for decades. Best-selling author of books such as A Fan's Guide To Understanding The NFL Draft, A Fan's Guide To Understanding The NFL Salary Cap, and A Fan's Guide To NFL Free Agency Hits And Misses, Bruce contributes to CheeseHeadTV and PackersForTheWin.com. Follow Bruce Irons on Twitter at @BruceIronsNFL. __________________________ NFL Categories: Green Bay PackersTags: packersMatt LaFleur Like 0 points
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Don't mind first and second down. Make them use their timeouts. But the third down call was mind numbing.