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Grits 'n Gravy @gritsmcbarkin.myatproto.social · 1h

Don't get mad: get even. Prove me wrong by clarifying your position. You'll get an apology as soon as you've done so, if it turns out I was wrong. As it sits, I don't think I was, but I'll keep an open mind.

Grits 'n Gravy @gritsmcbarkin.myatproto.social · 2h

Point out, clearly and explicitly, what I got wrong. Skip the euphemisms or attempts at re-framing the issue. Don't prevaricate. If I actually got anything wrong, I will apologize.

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Grits 'n Gravy @gritsmcbarkin.myatproto.social · 2h

That's right. He never smelled no mustard.

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Lady Friend @ladybangbang.bsky.social · Sep 10

Everyone is always like "the only good nazi is a dead nazi", until they get a dead nazi and then they're like, "awh, but what about the dead nazi's nazi family?"

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Grits 'n Gravy @gritsmcbarkin.myatproto.social · 4h

My first concern is housing these people. And given that there is NO FUCKING PLACE FOR THEM TO GO, my absolute LAST concern is that they are camping under a bridge or in a park. What kind of monster sees that and yells for the cops to get out their billy clubs and start whacking heads?

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Grits 'n Gravy @gritsmcbarkin.myatproto.social · 4h

Your first resort is the guys with the guns, TASERs, collapsible batons, and pepper spray. In a city with <1000 empty beds to serve >8000 people on the street. Because they need to be "incentivized"--1,000 to seek shelter, and 7,000 to fuck right off, you don't care where.

We just are not the same.

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Grits 'n Gravy @gritsmcbarkin.myatproto.social · 4h

You justify this by pointing at a few hundred empty beds, at most, as proof that we need to "incentivize" those 8,000 homeless to get the fuck out of our sight.

Grits 'n Gravy @gritsmcbarkin.myatproto.social · 4h

But you've made arguments that they need to be driven out of sight (i.e., "not putting tents in the sidewalk") to shore up tax revenue before we can afford to house them. That's housing later (maybe), but for now rousting, arrest, confiscation of tents, etc.

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Grits 'n Gravy @gritsmcbarkin.myatproto.social · 4h

But the total number of beds is about 3,000, and the total number of homeless is more than 11,000. That's more than 3 homeless for every 1 bed. At full occupancy, 2/3 of the homeless have nowhere to go.

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Grits 'n Gravy @gritsmcbarkin.myatproto.social · 4h

Equating that with "demand" would be a leap, though, because beds can be unoccupied due to repairs, staffing shortages, or prior reservations. Some beds are reserved for particular populations, like families or youth.

But I'll grant that at least some beds are open and unclaimed on a given night.

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Grits 'n Gravy @gritsmcbarkin.myatproto.social · 4h

By "for current demand," do you mean that there are empty beds, which proves that supply exceeds demand? Because it's true that occupancy of Portland homeless shelters is about 92%, implying 8% vacancy.

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Grits 'n Gravy @gritsmcbarkin.myatproto.social · 4h

Make up your mind. You recently accused me of "putting words in your mouth" for supposedly insinuating that you thought there were enough shelters for all the homeless.

Oh. You carefully said "for current demand." Sneaky!

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Grits 'n Gravy @gritsmcbarkin.myatproto.social · 5h

I never said you said it. I know you know there aren't enough shelters. I'm pointing out your hypocrisy in calling for them to "move to shelters" when you KNOW that there isn't enough room in the shelters.

Grits 'n Gravy @gritsmcbarkin.myatproto.social · 5h

There aren't enough shelters. There MAY be empty beds, as you claim, but there aren't ENOUGH. You admitted that when you expressed hope that more would be built if the existing ones filled up. So no, you don't "hope they move into shelters." Not all of them. Just some--til they're filled up.

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Grits 'n Gravy @gritsmcbarkin.myatproto.social · 5h

So no, I'm not putting words in your mouth: They're an eyesore causing declining tax revenue, which prevents us from providing housing, unless we get revenue up by getting them out of sight by having cops arrest them and take their tents in hopes they move into shelters or at least out of our sight.

Grits 'n Gravy @gritsmcbarkin.myatproto.social · 5h

Meaning "[jail] would incentivize [the homeless] to move into shelters." OR, you added, "to not put their tent in a sidewalk."

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Grits 'n Gravy @gritsmcbarkin.myatproto.social · 5h

...and fewer than the homeless; you specifically said "if they filled up" you hoped more would be built.

Earlier you said that the "visible" homeless were responsible for "declining tax revenue," and that while we can't arrest them ALL, "it" (meaning jail) would "incentivize them" i.e the homeless.

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Grits 'n Gravy @gritsmcbarkin.myatproto.social · 6h

Because you "hope" they build more, but in the meantime you still advocate having the police roust them, bust up their encampments, and haul them off to jail, because otherwise they're an eyesore that inhibits the local economy.

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Grits 'n Gravy @gritsmcbarkin.myatproto.social · 6h

"Many" -- you mean "as many as there are homeless people"? I hope you don't mean that, because we both know that would be wildly false. And that being the case, your earlier comment still presents as disingenuous.

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Grits 'n Gravy @gritsmcbarkin.myatproto.social · 7h

Whatever.

Anyway, it's become quite clear that you're bigoted against the unhoused, that you fully support efforts to criminalize and punish them for being unhoused, and that as long as they GO AWAY where you don't have to see them, you'll be satisfied. You could've saved time and said that first.

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Grits 'n Gravy @gritsmcbarkin.myatproto.social · 7h

Remember, I'm advocating for housing them. You're advocating for having the police assault them and haul them off.

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Grits 'n Gravy @gritsmcbarkin.myatproto.social · 7h

It might have been a fragmentation sub.

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Grits 'n Gravy @gritsmcbarkin.myatproto.social · 9h

Can confirm: the rapture is what these types jerk off to.

Grits 'n Gravy @gritsmcbarkin.myatproto.social · 9h

This makes me happy inside.

Grits 'n Gravy @gritsmcbarkin.myatproto.social · 10h

Well, right, but the argument they’re making to the public is that if you beat the unfortunate, they’ll shape up and get fortunate.