Lauren Hodges
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Lauren Hodges
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I’m not a Nazi so — no. I didn’t take special notice of Nazi symbols and I also did not specialize in WW2 history.

I am, however, American, have kids and watch USA movies so I see skull and crossbones and think, “Pirate, Poison, Danger, Marine.”

It is still used to mean at least 3 of 4.
According to @chathamharrison.bsky.social it is not a totenkopf because it is not turned to the right.

So either he is normalizing the skull and crossbones to divorce it from its link to Nazism or the hyper insistence from some that “it shoulda been obvious” could perhaps be less strident.
Asked and answered elsewhere. Only Nazis have swastikas and everyone knows the symbol.

This is different.
of small changes to common symbols.
Thats funny because in the actual historical photos I could find of it online (instead of replica renditions) it was straight on and turned to the right.

I did find right turned skulls on some USA WW2 stuff too. And that was my point - that not everyone will understand the sig
If I did it before Google image search existed, I mighta just pointed at one of these.
Fair. And anyone in public life learns this. He’s new to the game. If we want new people, we’ll have to grant at least a 6 month learning curve.
You answered your own question. It’s on his chest. I have some ugly lame tattoos from when I was young but since my shirt covers them most people are shocked when I wear a swimsuit.

He started running a couple months ago. It takes time for people to care enough about you to try to take you down
I didn’t say working class equals dummy. I said I did not recognize it. Would you please tell me the name of the American Fighter Squadron with the most kills in WW2?
And, in all earnestness, how do you think it differs from these?
Can you say more to correct me?
And maybe that will be the response. But the shaming him for not knowing better?

I just googled, “symbol for poison.” It’s still the ubiquitous symbol for poison in the USA. It’s a symbol in near every culture to mean danger or death.
That’s why I said most. And , when I say I didn’t recognize it, I’m speaking as a coastal liberal who majored in history.

My point is that there was no reason ti disbelieve the story that he thought it was a cool pirate tattoo. Coincidentally, one worn by American WW2 GIs and on WW2 airplanes.
Which was recently. And you implied that the failure disqualified him. That’s what I’m responding too.

It was absolutely also pretty darn close to the symbol of the unit famous for killing Nazis. So, I’m more responding to the whole thread of the bsky gang up disparaging Platner for Nazism.
I’m not. If you’re telling me someone doesn’t know that getting a swastika makes them a nazi… I’m saying you’re crazy. Swastika = Nazi. I’m also saying all the Heil Hitler salutes from Musk and Bannon were Nazi.

But if you tell me every American kid dressing up like a pirate…
Is that actually what you’re saying when saying the tattoo disqualifies Platner? Because that does come off poorly.

If you think he has other qualities that disparity him, those could be stated without inventing a test on recognizing co-opted Nazi symbols that the majority of Americans would fail.
Now… if you had robust evidence of white supremacist belief amongst Platner, is perhaps take the tattoo as sign that he was being correctly labeled.

But if you’re saying every American newly running for office should remove their service tattoos. Or, that they need a degree in aesthetics…
Then this starts looking like elitist liberal censoriousness as the criterion you are using to disqualify Platner, a working class populist, would require him to have a liberal arts degree with more history or aesthetics than mine- because I also did not recognize the SS connection.
dress up as pirates on Halloween, I’m backing Lyle that discounting an American marine from political life for a pirate tattoo is not sound.

If you say, “oh. well he should know the bones have to be slightly higher so as not to look like the Nazi symbol (stolen from an English pirate)…
requested the “Nazi crossbones.” I’d have a hard time believing that a German or someone with a supremacist past doesn’t know the totenkopf symbol as it’s banned in Germany.

However, seeing as how the most famous USA WW2 fighter squadron used the jolly roger’s symbol and kids all over America
What you are calling the Totenkopf symbol was first a pirate flag used by Richard Worley, predating the Nazis by 200 years fgand pirate symbolism is replete in Western culture.

I’m a history major and didn’t see anything Nazi oriented nor did it turn up in an internet search until I specifically
If everyone were a bigger person, this could be a useful conversation. @lylerubin.bsky.social is right that the language @grahamformaine.bsky.social spoke when getting the tattoo is important.

Gift in English means “poison” in German. Same word. Two meanings in diff languages.
Yes. But he thinks he owns the country. And there’s quid pro quo for every “donation.” Therefore, in his mind, he’s paying for it.
You’re missing the real joke.

Trump’s first big swagger about his tariffs was that he got the UK to drop barriers to importing beef from the USA. Then, our beef prices went up as our currency declined.

Now he wants to import lesser quality beef from Argentina because we can’t afford our own.