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Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Sep 28

stored the bales on their arrival until their turn for delivery came. No remonstrance could induce them to add to their number of boats, or to increase their speed, or reduce the rate of freights.”

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Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Sep 28

His full comment "It took longer at that time, for the Manchester manufacturers to get their cotton from Liverpool than it had done for the same bales to come from America to England. The canal company, strong in its monopoly of transit, took life easily,

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Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Sep 28

It pains to post uncited quotes. One interesting fact that has always been used is that it could take longer to transport cotton from Liverpool to Manchester than it took to get it from the Americas to Liverpool. Turns out the quote is from a Liverpool corn broker called Sir Joshua Walmsley.

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Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Sep 14

Locomotive powered for the entire passenger journey.
Timetabled
Ticketed
Dual tracked, never encountering another train coming in the opposite direction
Purpose-built stations
Everything needed for the journey: the track, locomotives and the rolling stock were all supplied by the provider...

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Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Sep 14

Today is the 195th anniversary of modern railways. The first inter-city railway opened on this day when eight trains left Crown Street in Liverpool for Liverpool Road in Manchester.

It didn't do a lot of "firsts", it just got the combination right becoming the template for everything that followed.

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Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Sep 13

To highlight the needle vs. haystack nature of this search, there have been Count Potocki since the 12th century, with the last one dying in 1997. Even in the first half of the 19th Century there were two Leon Potocki, our diplomat & a poet. Both born at the end of the 18th C and dying in the 1860s

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Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Sep 13

We have finally nailed down that we are looking for Leon Potocki, with this we can start to narrow our search parameters. Count Leon Potocki (1788–1860) was a Polish noble who served the Russian Empire as an ambassador all across Europe. including Lisbon, Naples, Vienna, London and Stockholm.

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Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Sep 13

Currently researching the guests present on opening day of the L&MR in 1830. One of the hard ones to find information on is Count Potocki the Russian Ambassador. The problem is there are several simultaneous Counts and most contemporary press reports don't distinguish which is which...

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Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Sep 13

GAH!! Maude in BR livery, who did that to her?!?!?!

Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Sep 7

I don't know if @rwldproject.bsky.social can help, but I was wondering when the first-ever railway-based suicide happened? I looked into it, and the date 1852 pops up, but no further details. #MorbidCuriosity

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Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Aug 18

Not saying crime was rife in Liverpool in 1978, but apparently, even if it was bolted down, it was not safe. Page 15 of the Liverpool Echo for the 9th June 1978 has two separate railway thefts relating to the Liverpool & Manchester Railway.

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Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Aug 16

Next we have a close up of the cutting with and without models of the Moorish arch (model by ‪vrsimility.bsky.social‬) and the two "Pillars of Hercules" chimneys (model by POD). It may be time to remake our Wapping Tunnel route video...

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Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Aug 16

Looking at how much Google Earth has improved in recent times. The 1st image is from 2023, which was made to show the location of the cutting in relation to Edge Hill station. The 2nd image is a 2025 version showing a vast improvement in both image quality and 3D modelling of buildings.

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Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Jul 27

A nice old photo of Liverpool Road Station from the Sunday Times. Year unknown.

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Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Jul 25

The landlady popped out for a chat while we where taking photos. We couldn't stay long, we needed to get to the Sankey Viaduct before we lost the sun.

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Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Jul 25

I can't find any newspaper account of that bridge collapsing.

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Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Jul 24

Guess where we are now?

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Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Jul 24

It's a hard life, on the banks of the Bridgewater canal in Astley. We have been to Chat Moss to see the tracks sink under trains, but modern trains are not heavy enough to see the effect properly... 😕

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Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Jul 22

Gah! Forgot to bid on this today. Went for £140 + fees. I meant to bid on it, but was having an eye test 😒
Sepia watercolour by unknown artist in the style of Isaac Shaw. Shows Ducal coaches crossing Water Street Bridge on opening day.

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Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Jul 22

Never seen that one before.

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Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Jul 18

This image from the Newland map of 1848 shows the track coming out of the 1829 tunnel, taking the sharp right, then going to the turntable in the top corner, but then that line does not go into coal yards...

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Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Jul 17

Weird that in 1849, anything would be referred to as "old"

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Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Jul 16

Unknown. The north of Crown Street was always the coal yard. I would assume that cattle would have gone down to Park Lane. Then to the Mill field after the 1845 tunnel was built.

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Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Jul 16

[1] The 1851 plan of the Edge Hill complex shows the winding vault highlighted in yellow and the station buildings in blue.
[2] The view of the vault from Platform 1
[3] A drawing of the engines and wheel used on Platform 2
[4] The portal for the Victoria Tunnel

The 1851 plan of Edge Hill showing the winding vault to the north of platform 1 at Edge Hill.

The winding vault as seen from Platform 1 at Edge Hill

A drawing of the winding engine used for the Lime Street tunnel for modern day Platform 2

The portal of the Victoria tunnel (right) next to the platform 1 portal for the Lime Street cutting (left)

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Liverpool and Manchester Railway Trust @lmrailway.bsky.social · Jul 16

Network Rail has uncovered the original 1849 rope winding vault for the Victoria Tunnel at Edge Hill. As with the Wapping and Lime Street tunnels, the Victoria used a steam-powered rope haulage system to pull rolling stock up from the North docks.

The side tunnel off of the winding vault which would have carried the drive shaft back to the steam engines which would have been under Platform 1

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