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The AI policy podcast brought to you by The University of Texas School of Law and Lawfare. Join hosts Kevin Frazier and Alan Rozenshtein for deep dives into the AI weeds.
What's the general counsel of @anthropic.com thinking about these days?!
Find out via this conversation between Jeff Bleich and @kevintfrazier.bsky.social.
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Find out via this conversation between Jeff Bleich and @kevintfrazier.bsky.social.
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Anthropic's General Counsel, Jeff Bleich, Explores the Intersection of Law, Business, and Emerging Technology
Podcast Episode · Scaling Laws · 18/11/2025 · 37m
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November 18, 2025 at 12:17 PM
What's the general counsel of @anthropic.com thinking about these days?!
Find out via this conversation between Jeff Bleich and @kevintfrazier.bsky.social.
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Find out via this conversation between Jeff Bleich and @kevintfrazier.bsky.social.
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The anxiety Americans feel about AI is real and demands a substantive answer to the question of "what's next," writes Kevin Frazier. Reforms to the Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act to improve the nation’s workforce development programs should be a part of that answer, he says.
Reforms to the Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act Could Help Workers Displaced by AI | TechPolicy.Press
The anxiety Americans feel about AI is real and demands a substantive answer to the question of "what's next," writes Kevin Frazier.
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November 17, 2025 at 1:48 PM
The anxiety Americans feel about AI is real and demands a substantive answer to the question of "what's next," writes Kevin Frazier. Reforms to the Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act to improve the nation’s workforce development programs should be a part of that answer, he says.
If states are laboratories of democracy, then @scottwiener.bsky.social is one of the most prolific scientists.
Sen. Wiener explains California's many AI policy experiments in an episode w/ @alanrozenshtein.com & @kevintfrazier.bsky.social.
The trio cover SB 53, SB 1047, and breakfast tacos.
Sen. Wiener explains California's many AI policy experiments in an episode w/ @alanrozenshtein.com & @kevintfrazier.bsky.social.
The trio cover SB 53, SB 1047, and breakfast tacos.
October 21, 2025 at 12:42 PM
If states are laboratories of democracy, then @scottwiener.bsky.social is one of the most prolific scientists.
Sen. Wiener explains California's many AI policy experiments in an episode w/ @alanrozenshtein.com & @kevintfrazier.bsky.social.
The trio cover SB 53, SB 1047, and breakfast tacos.
Sen. Wiener explains California's many AI policy experiments in an episode w/ @alanrozenshtein.com & @kevintfrazier.bsky.social.
The trio cover SB 53, SB 1047, and breakfast tacos.
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Today's Lawfare Daily is a @scalinglaws.bsky.social episode where @kevintfrazier.bsky.social spoke to @davidsullivan.bsky.social and Rayi Iyer about the evolution of the Trust & Safety field and its relevance to ongoing conversations about how best to govern AI. youtu.be/6irBgNfwmdc?...
October 10, 2025 at 1:31 PM
Today's Lawfare Daily is a @scalinglaws.bsky.social episode where @kevintfrazier.bsky.social spoke to @davidsullivan.bsky.social and Rayi Iyer about the evolution of the Trust & Safety field and its relevance to ongoing conversations about how best to govern AI. youtu.be/6irBgNfwmdc?...
Just how much energy is involved in developing & using AI?
What's the status of efforts to make AI training more efficient?
Do those on the vanguard of AI energy research use AI in their daily lives?
Answers to these Q (and bad jokes from @kevintfrazier.bsky.social) in our latest episode.
What's the status of efforts to make AI training more efficient?
Do those on the vanguard of AI energy research use AI in their daily lives?
Answers to these Q (and bad jokes from @kevintfrazier.bsky.social) in our latest episode.
October 14, 2025 at 2:03 PM
Just how much energy is involved in developing & using AI?
What's the status of efforts to make AI training more efficient?
Do those on the vanguard of AI energy research use AI in their daily lives?
Answers to these Q (and bad jokes from @kevintfrazier.bsky.social) in our latest episode.
What's the status of efforts to make AI training more efficient?
Do those on the vanguard of AI energy research use AI in their daily lives?
Answers to these Q (and bad jokes from @kevintfrazier.bsky.social) in our latest episode.
What can AI safety learn from Trust & Safety?
@davidsullivan.bsky.social & Ravi Iyer join @kevintfrazier.bsky.social to tackle this important question.
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@davidsullivan.bsky.social & Ravi Iyer join @kevintfrazier.bsky.social to tackle this important question.
Listen here: podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/a...
AI Safety Meet Trust & Safety with Ravi Iyer and David Sullivan
Podcast Episode · Scaling Laws · 07/10/2025 · 47m
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October 7, 2025 at 11:40 AM
What can AI safety learn from Trust & Safety?
@davidsullivan.bsky.social & Ravi Iyer join @kevintfrazier.bsky.social to tackle this important question.
Listen here: podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/a...
@davidsullivan.bsky.social & Ravi Iyer join @kevintfrazier.bsky.social to tackle this important question.
Listen here: podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/a...
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New @scalinglaws.bsky.social rapid response episode with @kevintfrazier.bsky.social on California’s SB 53, the AI safety law that Governor Gavin Newsom signed into law yesterday. www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGYL...
Scaling Laws, Rapid Response: California Governor Newsom Signs SB-53
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September 30, 2025 at 10:41 PM
New @scalinglaws.bsky.social rapid response episode with @kevintfrazier.bsky.social on California’s SB 53, the AI safety law that Governor Gavin Newsom signed into law yesterday. www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGYL...
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Today's Lawfare Daily is a @scalinglaws.bsky.social episode, produced with @utexaslaw.bsky.social, where @kevintfrazier.bsky.social spoke to @gushurwitz.bsky.social and @neilchilson.bsky.social about how academics can overcome positively contribute to the work associated with AI governance.
The Ivory Tower and AI (Live from IHS's Technology, Liberalism, and Abundance Conference)
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October 1, 2025 at 1:39 PM
Today's Lawfare Daily is a @scalinglaws.bsky.social episode, produced with @utexaslaw.bsky.social, where @kevintfrazier.bsky.social spoke to @gushurwitz.bsky.social and @neilchilson.bsky.social about how academics can overcome positively contribute to the work associated with AI governance.
What even is AI policy? What myths are contributing to disagreements over how best to govern AI? How can academics play a bigger role in these conversations (should they)?!
@gushurwitz.bsky.social (@penncareylaw.bsky.social) & Neil Chilson join @kevintfrazier.bsky.social to offer their answers.
@gushurwitz.bsky.social (@penncareylaw.bsky.social) & Neil Chilson join @kevintfrazier.bsky.social to offer their answers.
September 30, 2025 at 1:29 PM
What even is AI policy? What myths are contributing to disagreements over how best to govern AI? How can academics play a bigger role in these conversations (should they)?!
@gushurwitz.bsky.social (@penncareylaw.bsky.social) & Neil Chilson join @kevintfrazier.bsky.social to offer their answers.
@gushurwitz.bsky.social (@penncareylaw.bsky.social) & Neil Chilson join @kevintfrazier.bsky.social to offer their answers.
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How have I missed the @scalinglaws.bsky.social podcast so far?!
New @scalinglaws.bsky.social conversation with @noupside.bsky.social and @jmiers230.bsky.social about AI child safety: the recent announcement from OpenAI, the ongoing OpenAI and Character.ai child safety lawsuits, and more. www.lawfaremedia.org/article/scal...
Scaling Laws: AI and Young Minds: Navigating Mental Health Risks with Renee DiResta and Jess Miers
Does generative AI systems pose distinct risks to children?
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September 28, 2025 at 9:46 AM
How have I missed the @scalinglaws.bsky.social podcast so far?!
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New @scalinglaws.bsky.social conversation with @noupside.bsky.social and @jmiers230.bsky.social about AI child safety: the recent announcement from OpenAI, the ongoing OpenAI and Character.ai child safety lawsuits, and more. www.lawfaremedia.org/article/scal...
Scaling Laws: AI and Young Minds: Navigating Mental Health Risks with Renee DiResta and Jess Miers
Does generative AI systems pose distinct risks to children?
www.lawfaremedia.org
September 23, 2025 at 3:05 PM
New @scalinglaws.bsky.social conversation with @noupside.bsky.social and @jmiers230.bsky.social about AI child safety: the recent announcement from OpenAI, the ongoing OpenAI and Character.ai child safety lawsuits, and more. www.lawfaremedia.org/article/scal...
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Today's Lawfare Daily is a @scalinglaws.bsky.social produced with @utexaslaw.bsky.social where @alanrozenshtein.com sat down with @pamelasamuelson.bsky.social to discuss the rapidly evolving legal landscape at the intersection of generative AI and copyright law. youtu.be/-_YRksrxmEw
September 19, 2025 at 2:28 PM
Today's Lawfare Daily is a @scalinglaws.bsky.social produced with @utexaslaw.bsky.social where @alanrozenshtein.com sat down with @pamelasamuelson.bsky.social to discuss the rapidly evolving legal landscape at the intersection of generative AI and copyright law. youtu.be/-_YRksrxmEw
*New*
@pamelasamuelson.bsky.social (@ucberkeleylaw.bsky.social) joins @alanrozenshtein.com to analyze the current state of AI copyright litigation.
Critically, Pam also gets back to first principles of the IP Clause.
It's an important listen.
Check it out: podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/a...
@pamelasamuelson.bsky.social (@ucberkeleylaw.bsky.social) joins @alanrozenshtein.com to analyze the current state of AI copyright litigation.
Critically, Pam also gets back to first principles of the IP Clause.
It's an important listen.
Check it out: podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/a...
AI Copyright Lawsuits with Pam Samuelson
Podcast Episode · Scaling Laws · 16/09/2025 · 59m
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September 16, 2025 at 12:26 PM
*New*
@pamelasamuelson.bsky.social (@ucberkeleylaw.bsky.social) joins @alanrozenshtein.com to analyze the current state of AI copyright litigation.
Critically, Pam also gets back to first principles of the IP Clause.
It's an important listen.
Check it out: podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/a...
@pamelasamuelson.bsky.social (@ucberkeleylaw.bsky.social) joins @alanrozenshtein.com to analyze the current state of AI copyright litigation.
Critically, Pam also gets back to first principles of the IP Clause.
It's an important listen.
Check it out: podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/a...
The demand for quality economic analysis of AI on jobs is quite high. Supply, on the other hand, is often lacking.
That's why we're so glad to have @joshgans.bsky.social join @kevintfrazier.bsky.social on today's pod.
Give it a listen!
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That's why we're so glad to have @joshgans.bsky.social join @kevintfrazier.bsky.social on today's pod.
Give it a listen!
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AI and the Future of Work: Joshua Gans on Navigating Job Displacement
Podcast Episode · Scaling Laws · 11/09/2025 · 58m
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September 11, 2025 at 4:33 PM
The demand for quality economic analysis of AI on jobs is quite high. Supply, on the other hand, is often lacking.
That's why we're so glad to have @joshgans.bsky.social join @kevintfrazier.bsky.social on today's pod.
Give it a listen!
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That's why we're so glad to have @joshgans.bsky.social join @kevintfrazier.bsky.social on today's pod.
Give it a listen!
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AI safety means many different things to many different people.
Steven Adler, who previously served on several safety-related teams at OpenAI, joins @kevintfrazier.bsky.social to analyze the current state of AI safety -- what it means, why it matters, and where it's headed.
Steven Adler, who previously served on several safety-related teams at OpenAI, joins @kevintfrazier.bsky.social to analyze the current state of AI safety -- what it means, why it matters, and where it's headed.
September 9, 2025 at 1:25 PM
AI safety means many different things to many different people.
Steven Adler, who previously served on several safety-related teams at OpenAI, joins @kevintfrazier.bsky.social to analyze the current state of AI safety -- what it means, why it matters, and where it's headed.
Steven Adler, who previously served on several safety-related teams at OpenAI, joins @kevintfrazier.bsky.social to analyze the current state of AI safety -- what it means, why it matters, and where it's headed.
Whether/how/when to regulate Big Tech is the regulatory puzzle that keeps policymakers up at night.
Anu Bradford & @klonick.bsky.social join @kevintfrazier.bsky.social to sort things out.
The Brussels Effect is still alive, industrial policy is taking new forms & China is still the missing piece
Anu Bradford & @klonick.bsky.social join @kevintfrazier.bsky.social to sort things out.
The Brussels Effect is still alive, industrial policy is taking new forms & China is still the missing piece
Contrasting and Conflicting Efforts to Regulate Big Tech: EU v. US
Podcast Episode · Scaling Laws · 02/09/2025 · 46m
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September 2, 2025 at 12:08 PM
Whether/how/when to regulate Big Tech is the regulatory puzzle that keeps policymakers up at night.
Anu Bradford & @klonick.bsky.social join @kevintfrazier.bsky.social to sort things out.
The Brussels Effect is still alive, industrial policy is taking new forms & China is still the missing piece
Anu Bradford & @klonick.bsky.social join @kevintfrazier.bsky.social to sort things out.
The Brussels Effect is still alive, industrial policy is taking new forms & China is still the missing piece
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Today's Lawfare Daily is an episode of @scalinglaws.bsky.social, produced with @utexaslaw.bsky.social, where @kevintfrazier.bsky.social spoke to @petereharrell.bsky.social about the White House’s announcement that it will take a 10% share of Intel, the policy rationale for the stake & its legality.
August 29, 2025 at 1:33 PM
Today's Lawfare Daily is an episode of @scalinglaws.bsky.social, produced with @utexaslaw.bsky.social, where @kevintfrazier.bsky.social spoke to @petereharrell.bsky.social about the White House’s announcement that it will take a 10% share of Intel, the policy rationale for the stake & its legality.
A 10% stake in Intel may be the start of a new approach to industrial policy. Rumor has it defense contractors may be next.
What's the policy rationale for the US Govt seeking equity in private firms? And, perhaps more importantly, is it legal?
@petereharrell.bsky.social joins the pod.
What's the policy rationale for the US Govt seeking equity in private firms? And, perhaps more importantly, is it legal?
@petereharrell.bsky.social joins the pod.
August 28, 2025 at 11:41 AM
A 10% stake in Intel may be the start of a new approach to industrial policy. Rumor has it defense contractors may be next.
What's the policy rationale for the US Govt seeking equity in private firms? And, perhaps more importantly, is it legal?
@petereharrell.bsky.social joins the pod.
What's the policy rationale for the US Govt seeking equity in private firms? And, perhaps more importantly, is it legal?
@petereharrell.bsky.social joins the pod.
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What's the legal authority for the Intel deal?
- CHIPS Act?
- DPA?
- Both?
- Neither?
Big thanks to @petereharrell.bsky.social for joining @scalinglaws.bsky.social to help answer this question & explore the larger policy implications of this announcement.
- CHIPS Act?
- DPA?
- Both?
- Neither?
Big thanks to @petereharrell.bsky.social for joining @scalinglaws.bsky.social to help answer this question & explore the larger policy implications of this announcement.
August 28, 2025 at 11:38 AM
What's the legal authority for the Intel deal?
- CHIPS Act?
- DPA?
- Both?
- Neither?
Big thanks to @petereharrell.bsky.social for joining @scalinglaws.bsky.social to help answer this question & explore the larger policy implications of this announcement.
- CHIPS Act?
- DPA?
- Both?
- Neither?
Big thanks to @petereharrell.bsky.social for joining @scalinglaws.bsky.social to help answer this question & explore the larger policy implications of this announcement.
School is back in session.
How to use AI is on the syllabus, on the PTA agenda, and on the minds of policymakers, admin, and students.
That's why you won't want to miss this episode with MacKenzie Price (Alpha School) and @drrebeccawinthrop.bsky.social (@brookings.edu).
How to use AI is on the syllabus, on the PTA agenda, and on the minds of policymakers, admin, and students.
That's why you won't want to miss this episode with MacKenzie Price (Alpha School) and @drrebeccawinthrop.bsky.social (@brookings.edu).
August 26, 2025 at 10:58 AM
School is back in session.
How to use AI is on the syllabus, on the PTA agenda, and on the minds of policymakers, admin, and students.
That's why you won't want to miss this episode with MacKenzie Price (Alpha School) and @drrebeccawinthrop.bsky.social (@brookings.edu).
How to use AI is on the syllabus, on the PTA agenda, and on the minds of policymakers, admin, and students.
That's why you won't want to miss this episode with MacKenzie Price (Alpha School) and @drrebeccawinthrop.bsky.social (@brookings.edu).
The AI Action Plan marked a policy pivot toward open source as a way to accelerate AI.
What's that mean in practice?
@natolambert.bsky.social (@ai2.bsky.social) & Keegan McBride join @alanrozenshtein.com & @kevintfrazier.bsky.social to provide their answer.
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What's that mean in practice?
@natolambert.bsky.social (@ai2.bsky.social) & Keegan McBride join @alanrozenshtein.com & @kevintfrazier.bsky.social to provide their answer.
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The Open Questions Surrounding Open Source AI with Nathan Lambert and Keegan McBride
Podcast Episode · Scaling Laws · 21/08/2025 · 45m
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August 21, 2025 at 1:42 PM
The AI Action Plan marked a policy pivot toward open source as a way to accelerate AI.
What's that mean in practice?
@natolambert.bsky.social (@ai2.bsky.social) & Keegan McBride join @alanrozenshtein.com & @kevintfrazier.bsky.social to provide their answer.
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What's that mean in practice?
@natolambert.bsky.social (@ai2.bsky.social) & Keegan McBride join @alanrozenshtein.com & @kevintfrazier.bsky.social to provide their answer.
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A new Trump admin deal lets NVIDIA & AMD sell advanced AI chips to China for a 15% fee.
Strategic blunder?
Unconstitutional export tax?
Both?
On today's podcast, @alanrozenshtein.com breaks it down with @janetegan.bsky.social, Sam Winter Levy and Peter Harrell.
Strategic blunder?
Unconstitutional export tax?
Both?
On today's podcast, @alanrozenshtein.com breaks it down with @janetegan.bsky.social, Sam Winter Levy and Peter Harrell.
August 19, 2025 at 1:33 PM
A new Trump admin deal lets NVIDIA & AMD sell advanced AI chips to China for a 15% fee.
Strategic blunder?
Unconstitutional export tax?
Both?
On today's podcast, @alanrozenshtein.com breaks it down with @janetegan.bsky.social, Sam Winter Levy and Peter Harrell.
Strategic blunder?
Unconstitutional export tax?
Both?
On today's podcast, @alanrozenshtein.com breaks it down with @janetegan.bsky.social, Sam Winter Levy and Peter Harrell.
Don't miss @deanwb.bsky.social's unofficial exit interview w/ @alanrozenshtein.com & @kevintfrazier.bsky.social:
was the AI Action Plan a consensus document?
was anything omitted that he would've included?
what does he think its most important provisions are?
and, what makes Dean's heart sing?
was the AI Action Plan a consensus document?
was anything omitted that he would've included?
what does he think its most important provisions are?
and, what makes Dean's heart sing?
August 14, 2025 at 11:37 AM
Don't miss @deanwb.bsky.social's unofficial exit interview w/ @alanrozenshtein.com & @kevintfrazier.bsky.social:
was the AI Action Plan a consensus document?
was anything omitted that he would've included?
what does he think its most important provisions are?
and, what makes Dean's heart sing?
was the AI Action Plan a consensus document?
was anything omitted that he would've included?
what does he think its most important provisions are?
and, what makes Dean's heart sing?
Scaling Laws Academy is back in session.
Anat Lior (@drexelklinelaw.bsky.social) talks with @kevintfrazier.bsky.social (@utexaslaw.bsky.social) to answer one of the most important questions in AI policy:
Who is on the hook when AI causes harm?
Listen here: podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/t...
Anat Lior (@drexelklinelaw.bsky.social) talks with @kevintfrazier.bsky.social (@utexaslaw.bsky.social) to answer one of the most important questions in AI policy:
Who is on the hook when AI causes harm?
Listen here: podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/t...
The Legal Maze of AI Liability: Anat Lior on Bridging Law and Emerging Tech
Podcast Episode · Scaling Laws · 12/08/2025 · 47m
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August 12, 2025 at 12:35 PM
Scaling Laws Academy is back in session.
Anat Lior (@drexelklinelaw.bsky.social) talks with @kevintfrazier.bsky.social (@utexaslaw.bsky.social) to answer one of the most important questions in AI policy:
Who is on the hook when AI causes harm?
Listen here: podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/t...
Anat Lior (@drexelklinelaw.bsky.social) talks with @kevintfrazier.bsky.social (@utexaslaw.bsky.social) to answer one of the most important questions in AI policy:
Who is on the hook when AI causes harm?
Listen here: podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/t...
What keeps the OpenAI product policy team up at night?
Brian Fuller joins @kevintfrazier.bsky.social to explain the risks, goals, and responsibilities driving the lab's product policies.
With #chatgpt5 looming, there's no better time to explore how OpenAI thinks about its powerful products
Brian Fuller joins @kevintfrazier.bsky.social to explain the risks, goals, and responsibilities driving the lab's product policies.
With #chatgpt5 looming, there's no better time to explore how OpenAI thinks about its powerful products
August 7, 2025 at 8:51 AM
What keeps the OpenAI product policy team up at night?
Brian Fuller joins @kevintfrazier.bsky.social to explain the risks, goals, and responsibilities driving the lab's product policies.
With #chatgpt5 looming, there's no better time to explore how OpenAI thinks about its powerful products
Brian Fuller joins @kevintfrazier.bsky.social to explain the risks, goals, and responsibilities driving the lab's product policies.
With #chatgpt5 looming, there's no better time to explore how OpenAI thinks about its powerful products