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Le Tigre

@tigredepapier.bsky.social

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Antifascist Leftist Pro Ukraine Likes: Usually a "thank you for the information"! It does not imply, that I agree with what is described or am happy about it.

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Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 13h

Huch. Die Linke und AfD vereint?

@dielinkebt.de

Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 5d

Why Tomahawk?
From which boat will they use it?

Why not JASSM or other ground to ground or air to ground missiles?

Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 5d

Fuck Apple

Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 5d

Now, please think ahead.
If this is normal, what do you think midterms will look like?

Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 5d

Europe, get rid of American dependencies!

Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 6d

Sorry. I tried to guide you to the point where you understand, that the oppressors are not always bad.

That it depends on what is oppressed. And why.

I'm just too lazy to iterate over all forms of soft and hard oppression to get my point through.

Maybe you will get it at some point.

Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 6d

Different things. But rather in the sense of subclasses.

Parents: do your room or no pocket money... No idk... coercion or oppression. Or is it a subclasses?

If the US says: if you don't do this, we will not trade with you... Is it oppression or coercion?

And abusive is too moral for my taste

Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 6d

What is just? Give me a non-relative definition.

A definition of "If it's just" that everybody agrees to.

Because if you don't, you already oppress by enforcing your definition... Let alone the consequences, right?

So... Surprise me.
Solve a 5000 year old juridical dispute on what's "just"...

Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 6d

And for the left:

How can we minimize oppression of the monad in the whole that's to be optimized and perpetually improved

Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 6d

So yeah. I think oppression can be justified. It's just what/how much that's up for discussion.

No society will overcome oppression. It's literally the definition of society as a structured whole.

The question is how little is necessary and what is too much / not reasonable...

Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 6d

So instead of your: there is oppression and restorative oppression.

I believe that there is unjustified and justified oppression.

My definition makes it clear, that the point of judgment is external (justified comes from jus - a law… which only exists in a context/system).

Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 6d

I agree partially.
To translate to my definition: Oppression can be justified if it has a reason.

As that reason for me (in my example) is external (a foreign/external law/codex/moral) it's still oppression.

Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 6d

From the Latin "opprimere". To push down. To crush.

Subjected to authority or power; burdened by a prolonged, systematic, and often institutionalized exercise of authority that is harsh, restrictive, or abusive.

To lose self-determination. By an external force.

Explain yours / the difference

Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 6d

Yes. If you can't speak for yourself. If you don't have self-determination, you are oppressed...

I wanted to slowly guide you to the point, where you understand that, that's not always a bad thing...

After all you claimed:

Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 6d

Who was the Nazi judge from this list

Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 6d

Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 6d

As they did not have the right to judge themselves, they were oppressed, right?

But you claimed:
Every oppressor is wrong.
So they should have the right to judge themselves, no?

Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 6d

That's what you just claimed...

Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 6d

Who presided in Nuremberg? IMT?

Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 6d

So again, who presided over the Trials at Nuremberg? Who sat on the IMT (International military tribunal)?

Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 6d

Yeah. That was after June 1945.

Nazi Germany ended by the encirclement of Berlin. The winning parties established rules over their sectors.

There were different plans for Germany. Marshall won over Morgenthau. Not because of Germany. But because the Soviets were considered the next threat.

Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 6d

And no. Germany did not end the Nazis itself. It was subdued...

Read up on NS Germany.

Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 6d

But let's assume you are right, shall we. And let's take a recent example:

Hamas, the current government force of Gaza, in their charta, asks for the killing of all Jews (not Israelis, Jews).

Using your logic: you don't have a right to extremist views.

So dominion over them is ok?

Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 6d

Yes you are.
If people put in foreign judges to judge you, you are being oppressed. If they take your right to self determination, you are being oppressed.

So yeah. If they tell you what you can and can't do, you are being oppressed.

Le Tigre @tigredepapier.bsky.social · 6d

The oppressors are automatically wrong?

The most oppressed group after world war 2 in the 40s and 50s were the Nazis.
Or former Nazi Germany.

In your logic, the oppressors were wrong to suppress the Nazis?

Could you explain?