West Midlands Hunt Saboteurs
@westmidshuntsabs.bsky.social
The only line of defence for our hunted wildlife
On Saturday sabs were aggressively driven at by a buggy with hunt master Lizzie Sinden’s husband Nick, at the wheel
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Sabs driven at by a buggy
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November 25, 2025 at 7:23 PM
On Saturday sabs were aggressively driven at by a buggy with hunt master Lizzie Sinden’s husband Nick, at the wheel
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We helped this fox escape from the North Cotswold Hunt yesterday
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Read our full report here:
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November 25, 2025 at 8:43 AM
We helped this fox escape from the North Cotswold Hunt yesterday
Read our full report here:
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Read our full report here:
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𝗠𝗢𝗡𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗪𝗜𝗧𝗛 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗡𝗢𝗥𝗧𝗛 𝗖𝗢𝗧𝗦𝗪𝗢𝗟𝗗 𝗛𝗨𝗡𝗧
We joined our friends Three Counties Hunt Saboteurs today to sab the North Cotswold Hunt
Full report to follow.
We joined our friends Three Counties Hunt Saboteurs today to sab the North Cotswold Hunt
Full report to follow.
November 24, 2025 at 5:07 PM
𝗠𝗢𝗡𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗪𝗜𝗧𝗛 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗡𝗢𝗥𝗧𝗛 𝗖𝗢𝗧𝗦𝗪𝗢𝗟𝗗 𝗛𝗨𝗡𝗧
We joined our friends Three Counties Hunt Saboteurs today to sab the North Cotswold Hunt
Full report to follow.
We joined our friends Three Counties Hunt Saboteurs today to sab the North Cotswold Hunt
Full report to follow.
We had to save several foxes on Thursday including one that was hunted relentlessly for over an hour
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Fox relentlessly hunted
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November 23, 2025 at 4:06 PM
We had to save several foxes on Thursday including one that was hunted relentlessly for over an hour
youtu.be/hj6wg4WSyEs
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Wet and cold day with the Warwickshire Hunt who were saturated with sabs.
Convicted huntsman Will Goffe looked defeated and stressed. Surrounded by sabs who know their hunt territory well and still no whipper - in to help him.
Oh, to be a fly on the wall at tonight's hunt ball at Sherbourne Park 😂
Convicted huntsman Will Goffe looked defeated and stressed. Surrounded by sabs who know their hunt territory well and still no whipper - in to help him.
Oh, to be a fly on the wall at tonight's hunt ball at Sherbourne Park 😂
November 22, 2025 at 7:20 PM
Wet and cold day with the Warwickshire Hunt who were saturated with sabs.
Convicted huntsman Will Goffe looked defeated and stressed. Surrounded by sabs who know their hunt territory well and still no whipper - in to help him.
Oh, to be a fly on the wall at tonight's hunt ball at Sherbourne Park 😂
Convicted huntsman Will Goffe looked defeated and stressed. Surrounded by sabs who know their hunt territory well and still no whipper - in to help him.
Oh, to be a fly on the wall at tonight's hunt ball at Sherbourne Park 😂
Read our full report from Tuesday where we kept a close eye on the Warwickshire Hunt as they hunted Meon Hill, Admington and Kiftsgate Court Gardens
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November 21, 2025 at 5:42 PM
Read our full report from Tuesday where we kept a close eye on the Warwickshire Hunt as they hunted Meon Hill, Admington and Kiftsgate Court Gardens
www.facebook.com/WestMidsHunt...
www.facebook.com/WestMidsHunt...
𝐖𝐞 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐨𝐧𝐥𝐲 𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐝𝐞𝐟𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐟𝐨𝐱𝐞𝐬 𝐚𝐠𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐬𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐖𝐚𝐫𝐰𝐢𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐡𝐢𝐫𝐞 𝐇𝐮𝐧𝐭
These are the foxes,we helped escape the Warwickshire Hunt yesterday.
One fox was hunted relentlessly in Bascote Southam.
The hunt met at Hockley House Farm near Rugby.
Support us ✊️ 🦊
Confidential tip off line ☎️ 077676 20767☎️
These are the foxes,we helped escape the Warwickshire Hunt yesterday.
One fox was hunted relentlessly in Bascote Southam.
The hunt met at Hockley House Farm near Rugby.
Support us ✊️ 🦊
Confidential tip off line ☎️ 077676 20767☎️
November 21, 2025 at 10:48 AM
𝐖𝐞 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐨𝐧𝐥𝐲 𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐝𝐞𝐟𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐟𝐨𝐱𝐞𝐬 𝐚𝐠𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐬𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐖𝐚𝐫𝐰𝐢𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐡𝐢𝐫𝐞 𝐇𝐮𝐧𝐭
These are the foxes,we helped escape the Warwickshire Hunt yesterday.
One fox was hunted relentlessly in Bascote Southam.
The hunt met at Hockley House Farm near Rugby.
Support us ✊️ 🦊
Confidential tip off line ☎️ 077676 20767☎️
These are the foxes,we helped escape the Warwickshire Hunt yesterday.
One fox was hunted relentlessly in Bascote Southam.
The hunt met at Hockley House Farm near Rugby.
Support us ✊️ 🦊
Confidential tip off line ☎️ 077676 20767☎️
𝗧𝗢𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗦𝗔𝗕𝗦 𝗛𝗔𝗗 𝗧𝗢 𝗜𝗡𝗧𝗘𝗥𝗩𝗘𝗡𝗘 𝗠𝗨𝗟𝗧𝗜𝗣𝗟𝗘 𝗧𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗦 𝗧𝗢 𝗛𝗘𝗟𝗣 𝗠𝗨𝗟𝗧𝗜𝗣𝗟𝗘 𝗙𝗢𝗫𝗘𝗦
Warwickshire Hunt hunted foxes in Marton, Bascote and Birdingbury.
One fox in Bascote was hunted relentlessly.
They met at Hockley House Farm, Marton nr Rugby.
𝐖𝐞 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐨𝐧𝐥𝐲 𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐝𝐞𝐟𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐟𝐨𝐱𝐞𝐬 𝐚𝐠𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐬𝐭 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐖𝐚𝐫𝐰𝐢𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐡𝐢𝐫𝐞 𝐇𝐮𝐧𝐭 🦊
Warwickshire Hunt hunted foxes in Marton, Bascote and Birdingbury.
One fox in Bascote was hunted relentlessly.
They met at Hockley House Farm, Marton nr Rugby.
𝐖𝐞 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐨𝐧𝐥𝐲 𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐝𝐞𝐟𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐟𝐨𝐱𝐞𝐬 𝐚𝐠𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐬𝐭 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐖𝐚𝐫𝐰𝐢𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐡𝐢𝐫𝐞 𝐇𝐮𝐧𝐭 🦊
November 20, 2025 at 9:39 PM
𝗧𝗢𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗦𝗔𝗕𝗦 𝗛𝗔𝗗 𝗧𝗢 𝗜𝗡𝗧𝗘𝗥𝗩𝗘𝗡𝗘 𝗠𝗨𝗟𝗧𝗜𝗣𝗟𝗘 𝗧𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗦 𝗧𝗢 𝗛𝗘𝗟𝗣 𝗠𝗨𝗟𝗧𝗜𝗣𝗟𝗘 𝗙𝗢𝗫𝗘𝗦
Warwickshire Hunt hunted foxes in Marton, Bascote and Birdingbury.
One fox in Bascote was hunted relentlessly.
They met at Hockley House Farm, Marton nr Rugby.
𝐖𝐞 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐨𝐧𝐥𝐲 𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐝𝐞𝐟𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐟𝐨𝐱𝐞𝐬 𝐚𝐠𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐬𝐭 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐖𝐚𝐫𝐰𝐢𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐡𝐢𝐫𝐞 𝐇𝐮𝐧𝐭 🦊
Warwickshire Hunt hunted foxes in Marton, Bascote and Birdingbury.
One fox in Bascote was hunted relentlessly.
They met at Hockley House Farm, Marton nr Rugby.
𝐖𝐞 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐨𝐧𝐥𝐲 𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐝𝐞𝐟𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐟𝐨𝐱𝐞𝐬 𝐚𝐠𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐬𝐭 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐖𝐚𝐫𝐰𝐢𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐡𝐢𝐫𝐞 𝐇𝐮𝐧𝐭 🦊
Whilst some of our team made sure the Warwickshire Beagles didn't even leave the meet the rest of us stuck to the Warwickshire hunt like glue at their meet in the Ditchford / Stretton-on-Fosse area
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West Midlands Hunt Saboteurs
𝗔 𝘀𝗮𝗱 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘀𝗼𝗴𝗴𝘆 𝘀𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁 𝗮𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗪𝗮𝗿𝘄𝗶𝗰𝗸𝘀𝗵𝗶𝗿𝗲 𝗛𝘂𝗻𝘁
Warwickshire Hunt - Ditchford Farm - Saturday 15th November 2025
While some of our group made their way over to Woolscott Farm, Rugby to ruin the...
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November 19, 2025 at 6:39 PM
Whilst some of our team made sure the Warwickshire Beagles didn't even leave the meet the rest of us stuck to the Warwickshire hunt like glue at their meet in the Ditchford / Stretton-on-Fosse area
Read more here:
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Read more here:
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🌲𝗟𝗢𝗢𝗞𝗜𝗡𝗚 𝗙𝗢𝗥 𝗖𝗛𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗧𝗠𝗔𝗦 𝗣𝗥𝗘𝗦𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗦 𝗔𝗡𝗗 𝗪𝗔𝗡𝗧 𝗧𝗢 𝗛𝗘𝗟𝗣 𝗪𝗠𝗛𝗦 🦊🌲
𝐂𝐡𝐞𝐜𝐤 𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐟𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐫𝐚𝐢𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐜𝐥𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞 👇
🦊𝐎𝐧𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐬𝐡𝐨𝐩:
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Your donations help us to sab the Warwickshire Hunt multiple times a week, every week.
Your donations help save lives 🙏🦊❤️
𝐂𝐡𝐞𝐜𝐤 𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐟𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐫𝐚𝐢𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐜𝐥𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞 👇
🦊𝐎𝐧𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐬𝐡𝐨𝐩:
westmidlandshuntsabs.bigcartel.com
Your donations help us to sab the Warwickshire Hunt multiple times a week, every week.
Your donations help save lives 🙏🦊❤️
November 19, 2025 at 1:02 PM
🌲𝗟𝗢𝗢𝗞𝗜𝗡𝗚 𝗙𝗢𝗥 𝗖𝗛𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗧𝗠𝗔𝗦 𝗣𝗥𝗘𝗦𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗦 𝗔𝗡𝗗 𝗪𝗔𝗡𝗧 𝗧𝗢 𝗛𝗘𝗟𝗣 𝗪𝗠𝗛𝗦 🦊🌲
𝐂𝐡𝐞𝐜𝐤 𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐟𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐫𝐚𝐢𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐜𝐥𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞 👇
🦊𝐎𝐧𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐬𝐡𝐨𝐩:
westmidlandshuntsabs.bigcartel.com
Your donations help us to sab the Warwickshire Hunt multiple times a week, every week.
Your donations help save lives 🙏🦊❤️
𝐂𝐡𝐞𝐜𝐤 𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐟𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐫𝐚𝐢𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐜𝐥𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞 👇
🦊𝐎𝐧𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐬𝐡𝐨𝐩:
westmidlandshuntsabs.bigcartel.com
Your donations help us to sab the Warwickshire Hunt multiple times a week, every week.
Your donations help save lives 🙏🦊❤️
On Saturday, Warwickshire Beagles unloaded the beagles and headed towards the manor grounds. After around 30 minutes, the beagles were reloaded and driven away. So we did the same left the area and returned to make sure they hadn't returned back. The hunt hadn't returned.
Job done 👊
Job done 👊
November 18, 2025 at 7:27 AM
On Saturday, Warwickshire Beagles unloaded the beagles and headed towards the manor grounds. After around 30 minutes, the beagles were reloaded and driven away. So we did the same left the area and returned to make sure they hadn't returned back. The hunt hadn't returned.
Job done 👊
Job done 👊
This is one of the foxes we helped to safety this week
Read more here
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Read more here
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November 16, 2025 at 4:42 PM
This is one of the foxes we helped to safety this week
Read more here
www.facebook.com/WestMidsHunt...
Read more here
www.facebook.com/WestMidsHunt...
𝗪𝗛𝗔𝗧 𝗔 𝗪𝗘𝗘𝗞 𝗜𝗧𝗦 𝗕𝗘𝗘𝗡
🦊Coventry Diocese have refused Warwickshire Hunt access to their land
🦊Warwickshire PCC member Philip Seccombe will be losing his job.
🦊 Consistently attend Warwickshire Hunt meets
🦊 Warwickshire Beagles prevented from hunting near Rugby
🦊🐇 Lives saved
🦊Coventry Diocese have refused Warwickshire Hunt access to their land
🦊Warwickshire PCC member Philip Seccombe will be losing his job.
🦊 Consistently attend Warwickshire Hunt meets
🦊 Warwickshire Beagles prevented from hunting near Rugby
🦊🐇 Lives saved
November 16, 2025 at 1:19 PM
𝗪𝗛𝗔𝗧 𝗔 𝗪𝗘𝗘𝗞 𝗜𝗧𝗦 𝗕𝗘𝗘𝗡
🦊Coventry Diocese have refused Warwickshire Hunt access to their land
🦊Warwickshire PCC member Philip Seccombe will be losing his job.
🦊 Consistently attend Warwickshire Hunt meets
🦊 Warwickshire Beagles prevented from hunting near Rugby
🦊🐇 Lives saved
🦊Coventry Diocese have refused Warwickshire Hunt access to their land
🦊Warwickshire PCC member Philip Seccombe will be losing his job.
🦊 Consistently attend Warwickshire Hunt meets
🦊 Warwickshire Beagles prevented from hunting near Rugby
🦊🐇 Lives saved
𝗛𝘂𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗼𝗻 𝗽𝘂𝗯𝗹𝗶𝗰 𝗿𝗼𝗮𝗱𝘀
YouTube video by West Midlands Hunt Saboteurs
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November 12, 2025 at 2:53 PM
Convicted criminal huntsman Will Goffe is cracking under pressure and losing his temper more regularly
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November 11, 2025 at 8:02 PM
Convicted criminal huntsman Will Goffe is cracking under pressure and losing his temper more regularly
read more here
www.facebook.com/WestMidsHunt...
read more here
www.facebook.com/WestMidsHunt...
Whilst Warwickshire Police hold regular monthly meetings with the hunt, this is what is happening...
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Two foxes escape Warwickshire Hunt
YouTube video by West Midlands Hunt Saboteurs
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November 10, 2025 at 11:23 AM
Whilst Warwickshire Police hold regular monthly meetings with the hunt, this is what is happening...
youtu.be/CjYaLJ976Bc
youtu.be/CjYaLJ976Bc
Our two foot teams, two vehicles and drone kept a close eye on criminal Goffe and the Warwickshire Hunt on Thursday
Read more here
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Read more here
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November 9, 2025 at 12:24 PM
Our two foot teams, two vehicles and drone kept a close eye on criminal Goffe and the Warwickshire Hunt on Thursday
Read more here
www.facebook.com/WestMidsHunt...
Read more here
www.facebook.com/WestMidsHunt...
Blatant hunting at Claydon Hill Covert
In this video:
Sabs stop hounds hunting a fox
Huntsman takes the hounds into the woods to put them back onto the fox's scent
Hunt whipper-in rides his horse into a sab from behind
youtu.be/AEgONFy6NXA
In this video:
Sabs stop hounds hunting a fox
Huntsman takes the hounds into the woods to put them back onto the fox's scent
Hunt whipper-in rides his horse into a sab from behind
youtu.be/AEgONFy6NXA
Blatant hunting at Claydon Hill Covert
YouTube video by West Midlands Hunt Saboteurs
youtu.be
November 3, 2025 at 3:32 PM
Blatant hunting at Claydon Hill Covert
In this video:
Sabs stop hounds hunting a fox
Huntsman takes the hounds into the woods to put them back onto the fox's scent
Hunt whipper-in rides his horse into a sab from behind
youtu.be/AEgONFy6NXA
In this video:
Sabs stop hounds hunting a fox
Huntsman takes the hounds into the woods to put them back onto the fox's scent
Hunt whipper-in rides his horse into a sab from behind
youtu.be/AEgONFy6NXA
Warwickshire Police are having regular meetings with organised crime group the Warwickshire Hunt
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November 3, 2025 at 12:53 PM
Warwickshire Police are having regular meetings with organised crime group the Warwickshire Hunt
Read more here:
www.facebook.com/share/p/16Mb...
Read more here:
www.facebook.com/share/p/16Mb...
An organised crime group (as described by the local police force) held a recruitment day for kids.
Read more here...
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Read more here...
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October 30, 2025 at 7:40 PM
An organised crime group (as described by the local police force) held a recruitment day for kids.
Read more here...
www.facebook.com/WestMidsHunt...
Read more here...
www.facebook.com/WestMidsHunt...
On Tuesday the Warwickshire Hunt ended up re-hunting land they have only recently had a cub hunting met on. A sure sign they are losing land to hunt on.
Read more here
www.facebook.com/WestMidsHunt...
Read more here
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October 29, 2025 at 7:13 PM
On Tuesday the Warwickshire Hunt ended up re-hunting land they have only recently had a cub hunting met on. A sure sign they are losing land to hunt on.
Read more here
www.facebook.com/WestMidsHunt...
Read more here
www.facebook.com/WestMidsHunt...
On Saturday we had two teams out. One team sabbed the Warwickshire Hunt who met at Great Wolford whilst the second team sabbed the Dummer Beagles at Barcheston
Read more here
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Read more here
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October 27, 2025 at 4:33 PM
On Saturday we had two teams out. One team sabbed the Warwickshire Hunt who met at Great Wolford whilst the second team sabbed the Dummer Beagles at Barcheston
Read more here
www.facebook.com/WestMidsHunt...
Read more here
www.facebook.com/WestMidsHunt...
On Tuesday 21st we joined up with @3countieshuntsabs.bsky.social and sabbed the North Cotswold Hunt in the morning and then sabbed an evening meet of the Croome and West Warwickshire Hunt.
Read full report here:
www.facebook.com/WestMidsHunt...
Read full report here:
www.facebook.com/WestMidsHunt...
October 26, 2025 at 2:16 PM
On Tuesday 21st we joined up with @3countieshuntsabs.bsky.social and sabbed the North Cotswold Hunt in the morning and then sabbed an evening meet of the Croome and West Warwickshire Hunt.
Read full report here:
www.facebook.com/WestMidsHunt...
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Our drone has previously filmed the Warwickshire Hunt hounds chasing a fox in and out of Debdale Wood ata cub hunting meet last year. Last Thursday a combination of drone and camera filmed an almost identical situation at the exact same location
youtu.be/bw80mnPwmmI
youtu.be/bw80mnPwmmI
Fox hunted in Debdale wood
YouTube video by West Midlands Hunt Saboteurs
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October 23, 2025 at 5:14 PM
Our drone has previously filmed the Warwickshire Hunt hounds chasing a fox in and out of Debdale Wood ata cub hunting meet last year. Last Thursday a combination of drone and camera filmed an almost identical situation at the exact same location
youtu.be/bw80mnPwmmI
youtu.be/bw80mnPwmmI
This was one of two foxes that we helped escape from the Warwickshire Hunt on Monday as they hunted between a busy A road and a mainline railway
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October 22, 2025 at 3:58 PM
This was one of two foxes that we helped escape from the Warwickshire Hunt on Monday as they hunted between a busy A road and a mainline railway
Read more here
www.facebook.com/WestMidsHunt...
Read more here
www.facebook.com/WestMidsHunt...