Shareholders follow the money. They've already had their pound of flesh from our utilities & won't throw new money after mess they've created. You evidently don't understand the logic behind high finance, & try as many of us have, you simply don't have the wherewithal to comprehend.

Trump's just a brash, rich boy bully, but this will be a match-up like Biff vs Marty McFly in Back to the Future. One's an uncouth, loud-mouth, knuckle-dragger & the other a gentleman psycho like Hannibal Lecter!

It's not fair the Americans cry! 😂

Agreed 100%. The Americans aren't happy the Dark Lord is due on their shores next month. They know they can't manipulate the master manipulator & they also know their tariff threats won't work with the Prince of Darkness himself. What a move by Labour! The Americans are fuckin furious! 😂

You do realise negotiations take two parties, & with trade & political agreements, it takes years to negotiate? WASPI women want compensation now, not in 10/20 years when/if rejoining is agreed. As for raising taxes, Labour have already done so just to stay afloat. Haven't you heard the squealing? 🤷🏾‍♂️

This is the sovereign UK government. If it can issue compulsory purchase notices, it can tell whatever industries it wants that they're being nationalised. Labour has already started this process by not renewing lapsed licences & bringing several franchises back into government control.

It's not me negotiating, but what I'd personally do is to allow them to fail & buy them back for £1. The shareholders have made it plain by their reluctance to invest or bail out the utilities, that they don't care. They've ALREADY far surpassed their original investments with huge share dividends.

3/ This is not my opinion on the matter, these are facts. The shareholders know what's coming, & intend to bleed Thames until it collapses, or is renationalised. Either way, they've made their money & don't care what happens to their stakes.

www.theguardian.com/business/202...

2/ Many of the utilities are in serious financial trouble & need huge investment just to stop their infrastructure decline. This is why Thames Water were refused an infusion of cash from investors, to make repayments on their £14bn debt. The shareholders don't care. They've had their pound of flesh

1/ This is like pulling teeth! 🙄 The utilities were sold cheap. Foreign governments & huge venture capitalists moved in & rinsed the utilities for all they were worth, netting HUGE profits whilst investing the minimum amount to keep the infrastructure afloat... JUST!

2/ To lessen the effect of the oil crisis & energy cost spukes, Biden sold American strategic reserves when oil was at its peak which brought down energy costs sharply, & quite Cleverly replenished stocks when prices plummeted, netting the US a huge profit. 🤷🏾‍♂️

www.reuters.com/business/ene...

1/ Have you ever considered that oil companies regulate production to keep supply low & prices high? There are also trade deals done where the UK will buy oil from partners, in exchange for products & services. Russia & Saudi tried to keep prices high when Ukraine was invaded, but what did Biden do?

Mate, I'm actually struggling to see what your point is (if you have one). You just seem to be arguing for the sake of it whilst not offering an alternative...

Buy the original shares back. Allow TW to go under & buy it back for £1. Whatever's cheapest. Privatisation's been a disaster that can't be allowed to continue. The UK's been rinsed enough & no one will shed a tear for the shareholders who ran it into the ground through under investment & greed.

2/ So what did Thames do? They looked forlornly at the UK Government to bail them out. There's be no tears shed if Thames Water folded, & their shareholders would merely pack up shop & move on to where there's another company to rinse.

Again, you're demonstrating your lack of knowledge of how enterprise works in reality. I repeat, Thames Water asked their shareholders for an emergency loan, & they said no. They've already made 100 fold their initial investments, so clearly couldn't give a toss if it went under.

I refer you to the "many forms" comment I made initially...

Our prices are dicated by international market forces & foreign shareholders. Read back at the allotment analogy I gave you. Look after your own first & foremost, then sell the excess to the market. It's win/win for the people of the UK. I find it odd you're still struggling to grasp this... 😳

If a business goes bankrupt, what is there for shareholders to get? 🤔

Nationalisation comes in many forms.

www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/gui...

Because the UK population needs water, gas & electricity to live. It's as steadier a revenue stream as you could wish for if run correctly, as opposed to the current smash & grab bonanza we're seeing. It's why you'll never see funeral directors being short of clientele... 🤷🏾‍♂️