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It’s no accident that some of the loudest voices in politics built their platforms not on policy or lived expertise, but on convincing people they alone could explain how America works.

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Former RNC Chair and MSNBC host Michael Steele comes to the table with a candid, funny, and deeply personal conversation about his accidental rise through the Republican Party and the moral compass that guided his leadership. We reflect on the loneliness of party chairmanship, Chair Steele’s resistance to Trumpism, and the broken culture of politics today. With stories from the farm to the convention floor, this episode is part family reunion, part political therapy. And ends with one of our best-ever Sit Your Ass Down Awards. -- Timestamps -- 00:00 - From South Carolina Farms to Political Stages 05:34 - Reshaping the Presidential Primary Process 13:01 - Michael Steele's Unconventional Journey to Politics 28:45 - Inside the Fight to Change Political Party Culture 43:55 - Michael Steele on the GOP's Current State 01:03:18 - Navigating Political Futures, SYAD, and Final Reflections

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Former chair of the Democratic National Committee Jaime Harrison shares why Democrats must fight for every seat, what inspired him to run for office, and how to message effectively so voters don't stay home. 00:00 Jaime Harrison's Grandparents Made This All Possible 5:42 Being Mayor For A Day Got Harrison To College 9:41 Political Service Begins With Jesse Jackson 15:00 Lindsey Graham Forced Harrison To Run For Office 20:20 The Thing That Cost Harrison His Senate Seat 24:06 When President Biden Calls You Pick Up The Phone 28:00 Does The DNC Actually Help Democrats Message Effectively? 36:58 The Democrats Can't Forget About Red States 45:10 "They'd Rather Just Stay Home" 50:45 Democrats Must Fight For Every Single Seat 57:00 The Most Important Lessons For Democrats To Learn Heading Into 2026 1:03:27 Democrats Are The Ones Preserving Our Democracy SUBSCRIBE NOW: https://linktr.ee/govgavinnewsom FOLLOW: instagram.com/thisisgavinnewsom instagram.com/gavinnewsom tiktok.com/@gavinnewsom https://substack.com/@gavinnewsom Email: [email protected] Phone: 855-6NEWSOM