I get what you’re saying—context matters, and last season was brutal. But Spurs shouldn’t just settle for ‘not terrible.’ We should expect ambition, consistency, and a manager who can actually push the team forward, not just tread water.

True, context matters — but consistent underperformance can’t just be blamed on circumstances forever.

By that logic, Spurs could finish 12th and call it progress. Feels like aiming low.

League position alone doesn’t tell the full story. Performance levels, patterns of play and direction matter — and that’s where the comparison starts to fall apart.

Nothing in football is guaranteed, but that doesn’t mean you stick with something that clearly isn’t working. Ange went, things got worse — that’s on the board’s decisions, not an argument against change.

No. League position alone isn’t the argument. Performances, direction and whether there’s real improvement matter. Right now, I don’t see enough to justify sticking with TF.

Nuno had Son and Kane so it’s not entirely fair to compare….

I’d take Nuno 10/10 times over Frank.

Fair enough. You can’t take down Christmas without a proper soundtrack.