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I said enforcement may be a problem in a small number of cases. Hopefully service providers will have clear policies and enforce them so the number of people trying to use spaces meant for the opposite sex will reduce.
July 16, 2025 at 8:56 AM
I said enforcement may be a problem in a small number of cases. Hopefully service providers will have clear policies and enforce them so the number of people trying to use spaces meant for the opposite sex will reduce.
So you're ok with the principle of single sex spaces and all men being excluded from them? Enforcement may be a problem in a small number of cases but presumably that's not a reason to do away with them completely?
July 16, 2025 at 8:46 AM
So you're ok with the principle of single sex spaces and all men being excluded from them? Enforcement may be a problem in a small number of cases but presumably that's not a reason to do away with them completely?
You assumed wrong. I'm a woman. I'm asking you to explain your arguments. I'm equally disappointed that you, as a woman, don't seem to understand or respect my wish for single sex services and spaces.
July 16, 2025 at 8:40 AM
You assumed wrong. I'm a woman. I'm asking you to explain your arguments. I'm equally disappointed that you, as a woman, don't seem to understand or respect my wish for single sex services and spaces.
How did you decide I was a man?
July 16, 2025 at 8:33 AM
How did you decide I was a man?
Sorry that's not a serious response, so no point continuing the discussion. You keep referring to some mythical billionaire class who's apparently going to be suing every service provider and employer and you expect all buildings to convert there current facilities so they're individual unisex.
July 16, 2025 at 8:28 AM
Sorry that's not a serious response, so no point continuing the discussion. You keep referring to some mythical billionaire class who's apparently going to be suing every service provider and employer and you expect all buildings to convert there current facilities so they're individual unisex.
But most public buildings don't have fully enclosed unisex facilities, so what happens there?
July 16, 2025 at 8:21 AM
But most public buildings don't have fully enclosed unisex facilities, so what happens there?
OK you seem to think we can't trust people to use the correct facilities and staff can't enforce it anyway. So what would your solution be? All spaces to be mixed sex?
July 16, 2025 at 8:16 AM
OK you seem to think we can't trust people to use the correct facilities and staff can't enforce it anyway. So what would your solution be? All spaces to be mixed sex?
We expected men to stay out of women's spaces, and if they didn't, we'd report them to staff, who'd do something about it. And it's not just safety, it's privacy and dignity as well.
July 16, 2025 at 8:13 AM
We expected men to stay out of women's spaces, and if they didn't, we'd report them to staff, who'd do something about it. And it's not just safety, it's privacy and dignity as well.
If there's a clear policy stating that people should use the appropriate facilities based on their sex, shouldn't we be able to trust people to use the correct ones without the need to provide documentation? Or are you saying some people can't be trusted to do the right thing?
July 16, 2025 at 7:58 AM
If there's a clear policy stating that people should use the appropriate facilities based on their sex, shouldn't we be able to trust people to use the correct ones without the need to provide documentation? Or are you saying some people can't be trusted to do the right thing?
If it's described as being for women (or men) only, then that's what it has to be following the SC judgement. If they let some men in, they have to let all men in, ie make it mixed sex. It's managed by City of London Corp & they can't ignore the law just because some people disagree with it.
July 15, 2025 at 11:43 AM
If it's described as being for women (or men) only, then that's what it has to be following the SC judgement. If they let some men in, they have to let all men in, ie make it mixed sex. It's managed by City of London Corp & they can't ignore the law just because some people disagree with it.
I assume employers are familiar with Workplace Regulations & HSE guidance, so are unlikely to make major changes on the strength of an interm update from the EHRC without checking first. If people feel it's a major win for GLP, that's up to them. But as I said, the law hasn't changed.
June 25, 2025 at 1:00 PM
I assume employers are familiar with Workplace Regulations & HSE guidance, so are unlikely to make major changes on the strength of an interm update from the EHRC without checking first. If people feel it's a major win for GLP, that's up to them. But as I said, the law hasn't changed.
I should have said the law hasn't changed. EHRC have just expanded upon what they said originally, to reflect better what the regulations already say. So as far as I can see, the action taken by GLP doesn't seem to have changed anything so far as what employers/service providers have to do
June 25, 2025 at 12:36 PM
I should have said the law hasn't changed. EHRC have just expanded upon what they said originally, to reflect better what the regulations already say. So as far as I can see, the action taken by GLP doesn't seem to have changed anything so far as what employers/service providers have to do
That's not what the regulations say. See final sentence of attached (from HSE)
June 24, 2025 at 6:59 PM
That's not what the regulations say. See final sentence of attached (from HSE)
Sorry? That's what I said. They can provide single person lockable (gender neutral) facilities, but if they choose to provide communal facilities they must be separated by sex. I don't see what's complicated about this.
June 24, 2025 at 4:54 PM
Sorry? That's what I said. They can provide single person lockable (gender neutral) facilities, but if they choose to provide communal facilities they must be separated by sex. I don't see what's complicated about this.
They say that workplaces can provide single person, lockable gender neutral facilities, but if they do provide communal facilities, they must provide separate ones for men and women ie separated by sex.
June 24, 2025 at 4:11 PM
They say that workplaces can provide single person, lockable gender neutral facilities, but if they do provide communal facilities, they must provide separate ones for men and women ie separated by sex.
Don't see that anything has changed. They've just expanded & clarified, as people seemed to misunderstand previous wording. Communal facilities must still be separated by sex, but separate lockable rooms for a single person (as e.g. accessible toilets often are) are also acceptable
June 24, 2025 at 3:35 PM
Don't see that anything has changed. They've just expanded & clarified, as people seemed to misunderstand previous wording. Communal facilities must still be separated by sex, but separate lockable rooms for a single person (as e.g. accessible toilets often are) are also acceptable
Here's an alternative viewpoint, which suggests that it's not the EHRC that's the problem, but our MPs.
www.newstatesman.com/the-weekend-...
www.newstatesman.com/the-weekend-...
Do our politicians understand the supreme court’s gender ruling?
As members of the Women and Equalities Committee questioned Baroness Kishwer, it was not clear they do.
www.newstatesman.com
June 14, 2025 at 9:55 AM
Here's an alternative viewpoint, which suggests that it's not the EHRC that's the problem, but our MPs.
www.newstatesman.com/the-weekend-...
www.newstatesman.com/the-weekend-...
Me too. I only opened an account on here to see whether it was as bad as people on twitter said it was (which it is!)
June 13, 2025 at 8:04 PM
Me too. I only opened an account on here to see whether it was as bad as people on twitter said it was (which it is!)
Do you know your replies are marked as 'Intolerance' by moderators and aren't visible unless click through? Very strange, as you only appear to be posting facts
June 13, 2025 at 7:43 PM
Do you know your replies are marked as 'Intolerance' by moderators and aren't visible unless click through? Very strange, as you only appear to be posting facts
knowingius.org/p/are-trans-...
Here's a piece about the impact on workplaces and public provision which should help explain the situation, written by someone who's an expert in this area.
Here's a piece about the impact on workplaces and public provision which should help explain the situation, written by someone who's an expert in this area.
Are "trans inclusive" policies lawful?
In the aftermath of the Supreme Court decision in For Women Scotland v The Scottish Ministers [2025] UKSC 16 (FWS), there has been a raging debate about whether it is lawful for employers or service p...
knowingius.org
June 13, 2025 at 6:19 PM
knowingius.org/p/are-trans-...
Here's a piece about the impact on workplaces and public provision which should help explain the situation, written by someone who's an expert in this area.
Here's a piece about the impact on workplaces and public provision which should help explain the situation, written by someone who's an expert in this area.
knowingius.org/p/are-trans-...
This is an alternative explanation of the impact of the SC judgement on other legislation, written by someone with legal expertise.
This is an alternative explanation of the impact of the SC judgement on other legislation, written by someone with legal expertise.
Are "trans inclusive" policies lawful?
In the aftermath of the Supreme Court decision in For Women Scotland v The Scottish Ministers [2025] UKSC 16 (FWS), there has been a raging debate about whether it is lawful for employers or service p...
knowingius.org
June 13, 2025 at 6:15 PM
knowingius.org/p/are-trans-...
This is an alternative explanation of the impact of the SC judgement on other legislation, written by someone with legal expertise.
This is an alternative explanation of the impact of the SC judgement on other legislation, written by someone with legal expertise.
He's a lecturer in law. Personally I prefer to get information about the meaning and impact of a supreme court judgement from people who have expertise in the law, rather than a political commentator. But each to their own.
May 2, 2025 at 9:04 AM
He's a lecturer in law. Personally I prefer to get information about the meaning and impact of a supreme court judgement from people who have expertise in the law, rather than a political commentator. But each to their own.