Which police officer? The police didn't arrive until after the shooting.

Biden *started* a genocide in Gaza? That seems a bit of a stretch.

Don't worry about the in-network thing. Call one of these doctors and tell them you're a cash customer without insurance. You'll pay a reasonable rate. Do NOT tell them you're insured or provide insurance info. If you do, you'll pay the out-of-network rate which can be 10x the cash customer rate.

The prescription thing should be one of the lowest hanging fruits for fixing. We don't need to replace our entire system for this. We can just allow 1-year or even 5-year prescriptions. That would actually allow doctors to spend more time on doctoring.

Yup. It's impossible. We need single *pricing* healthcare. So many of our problems are caused by the fact that a provider can receive 5x more for 1 person than another person for the exact same procedure performed by the same doctor is absurd. Let's get rid of discriminatory pricing as a start.

Healthcare providers are the regional monopolies that own the hospitals and pay the doctors.The CEOs can make $10M/yr. The industry spent 3 times the insurance on lobbying over the past decade. These are the providers you see if you're on Medicare. The VA doctors mostly work for the government.

Well you're correct about the the VA and that's a good thing. But, there have been active bills as of April 2025.

And yes, Sanders bill abolishes Medicaid and .... does nothing for them. The bottom 33% of Californians already get the stuff in M4A. Why risk that? Why bet that against an unknown?

RFK Jr. will have *much* more power under M4A. Go read the bill.

Also, M4A isn't related to Medicare (other than the naming gimmick). M4A abolishes Medicare and Medicaid.

It also kicks 10M Americans off of actual socialized medicine (the VA) and puts them in the hands of for-profit providers.

VA-for-All is something I could maybe get behind. Medicare for All is just another gift to the healthcare providers.

The benefit of multiple payers is obvious: The 'single payer' is RFK Jr. Have you read the M4A bill? ' Do you trust 'The Secretary' to negotiate the lowest cost or line his pockets? Do you like vaccine coverage?
Single-payer might work for countries with parliamentary governments but that's not us.

I'm arguing that you can get the biggest bang of single payer - w/out single-payer - yes.

Universal coverage = 1 risk pool = largest denominator AND that's the delivery mechanism for monopsony (one buyer) pricing.

No one cares how many payers there are in that model. Germany is a good example.

Did you read the book? I didn't get that same impression from it. In fact, I saw some of the opposite where she berated herself for saying the wrong words at times. While I didn't agree with the central premise that there wasn't enough time,it didn't seem to me that she blamed everyone else.

This, in a nutshell, is one my main concerns about M4A.

Like he ran the worst campaign and got endorsed by the worst people AND HE’S A SEX PEST WHO RESIGNED IN DISGRACE FROM AN EVEN HIGHER OFFICE. RECENTLY! THE CURRENT GOVERNOR OF THE STATE IS LITERALLY THERE BECAUSE OF HOW BAD HE IS

and the entire establishment was like “oh yeah this is our guy”

We have govt healthcare too. The bottom 3rd of incomes in CA (roughly twice the population of Denmark) have everything in M4A. It does nothing for them but them at risk. The big reason other countries can have nice things is they have parliaments. As for free basic, that's not what the M4A bill is.

Most other countries aren't comparable to ours in the level of opposition to government supported healthcare. Even so, many other countries are multi-payer systems. Obamacare is largely modeled after The Netherlands system, which is rated second best in the world by the latest mirror-mirror report

Right. But Alex Azar was bad too. That's why a multifaceted overly redundant system like we have now is much better for *us* than M4A, which gives 'The Secretary' near dictatorial power over everyone's healthcare. We actually need more payers, not less.