Wow. comparatively, covid is a bloodbath to t cells. Unutmaz is an hiv investigator. He has since changed his views, and does not corroborate these statements any longer. You are free to ask him why, I suspect it's because we can not mitigate covid.

I stood in contrast to the people who publicly said T cells would cause us to reach herd immunity at a portion of population infected. I said on the contrary, they would be harmed, which is true.

Population-level T cell death is now published. It doesn't need to be validated with an R01 by me. Your parameters are off. Basically, you're making a strawman argument

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That's the BMJ. You're a computer engineer. It's a medical journal and the science is clear. Many articles on T cell apoptosis.

When you ask this guy who argued that people should count on this being like any other cold, he’s going to be the second to last to admit that harms the immune system. The last would be the intellectual fraud Zeynep Tufekci

The recent study that was published in the Lancet shows an increase in risk for other infections and for hospitalization by those other infections after Covid.

Finally, asking for infection controls is code for asking for studies in which people were intentionally infected rather than matched because he’s trying to claim there is confounding.

People are still even arguing over the mechanism of HIV’s harm to CD4 T cells but because they actually don’t know and it’s not 100% certain that it’s simply from dividing in the T cell. It could also be from chronically activating it with a superantigen.

He’s also asking for the mechanism, which is not necessary to prove that Covid actually has the effect. Many people research the mechanism behind gravity, we don’t need to prove how it works in order to prove gravity exists.

He can claim that those people had exhaustion without Covid being the cause and that they were predisposed to getting Covid because of a pre-existing exhaustion. This is like people that ask for HIV inoculation to prove AIDS. Essentially he is just a denialist.

People who had covid were more likely to be infected with other pathogens subsequently. The T cell damage was evident from the broad activation and differentiation.

4) A basic scientist would more likely been able to project this, like I had. Nevertheless, bad advice from scientists like Marc facilitated and even encouraged infection and antigenic immune escape, so now we can see the immune response to other pathogens is harmed.
thelancet.com/journals/lan...

3) Mechanism includes infection of T cells and broad activation

2) There are papers showing primed T cell apoptosis from sars cov 2, and the infection of T cells by sars cov 2
nature.com/articles/s41...

The cd8 response is dulled after infection nih.gov/news-events/...