Laura May
@flog61.bsky.social
I‘m not sure thats right - because of building regs on the number of single sex toilets employers must offer, the Kelly approach (basing TERFs to use different ones) probably wouldn’t be compliant? As there wouldnt be enough ‘women only‘ toilets numerically
February 13, 2026 at 1:45 PM
I‘m not sure thats right - because of building regs on the number of single sex toilets employers must offer, the Kelly approach (basing TERFs to use different ones) probably wouldn’t be compliant? As there wouldnt be enough ‘women only‘ toilets numerically
Ash you do know whether this case could theoretically go to the ECHR (once all domestic options are exhausted)?
Or would it need to be an actual Equality Act discrimination claim (eg Virgin Active)?
Or would it need to be an actual Equality Act discrimination claim (eg Virgin Active)?
February 13, 2026 at 1:01 PM
Ash you do know whether this case could theoretically go to the ECHR (once all domestic options are exhausted)?
Or would it need to be an actual Equality Act discrimination claim (eg Virgin Active)?
Or would it need to be an actual Equality Act discrimination claim (eg Virgin Active)?
Yes, if you’re put at any disadvantage you aren’t being provided suitable facilities. That could be discrimination, but for them to change it you may need to bring a claim. If you do so it’s very unlikely you would ever need to pay their costs even if you lose, so you can only gain from it really.
February 13, 2026 at 11:46 AM
Yes, if you’re put at any disadvantage you aren’t being provided suitable facilities. That could be discrimination, but for them to change it you may need to bring a claim. If you do so it’s very unlikely you would ever need to pay their costs even if you lose, so you can only gain from it really.
I’m quite stunned by the ‘gossip’ comments about trans people. That needs to be a key feature of any appeal.
February 13, 2026 at 11:45 AM
I’m quite stunned by the ‘gossip’ comments about trans people. That needs to be a key feature of any appeal.
What is your assessment of the judge’s view that colleagues speculating over an employee’s genitalia is normal and tolerable ‘gossip’?
Would a trans employee commenting on a woman’s genitalia be tolerable gossip in your opinion?
Would a trans employee commenting on a woman’s genitalia be tolerable gossip in your opinion?
February 13, 2026 at 11:39 AM
What is your assessment of the judge’s view that colleagues speculating over an employee’s genitalia is normal and tolerable ‘gossip’?
Would a trans employee commenting on a woman’s genitalia be tolerable gossip in your opinion?
Would a trans employee commenting on a woman’s genitalia be tolerable gossip in your opinion?
One thing I’d appreciate clarity on - if an employer has single-sex toilets *and* trans inclusive ‘gendered’ toilets, can the latter be normal toilets or do they also have to be enclosed rooms?
I.e., is the ‘enclosed room’ requirement only where there are *no* single sex facilities?
I.e., is the ‘enclosed room’ requirement only where there are *no* single sex facilities?
February 13, 2026 at 11:23 AM
One thing I’d appreciate clarity on - if an employer has single-sex toilets *and* trans inclusive ‘gendered’ toilets, can the latter be normal toilets or do they also have to be enclosed rooms?
I.e., is the ‘enclosed room’ requirement only where there are *no* single sex facilities?
I.e., is the ‘enclosed room’ requirement only where there are *no* single sex facilities?
Thought so from the tone of the posts in the last 24 hours :(
February 13, 2026 at 11:05 AM
Thought so from the tone of the posts in the last 24 hours :(
I was too
Forceful outing is wrong, full stop
Forceful outing is wrong, full stop
February 13, 2026 at 11:03 AM
I was too
Forceful outing is wrong, full stop
Forceful outing is wrong, full stop
Decent people don’t institute s28
February 13, 2026 at 10:49 AM
Decent people don’t institute s28
Sort of. The decision was made by three judges, and the EHRC judge was one of them. But he didn’t lead the judgment.
February 13, 2026 at 10:38 AM
Sort of. The decision was made by three judges, and the EHRC judge was one of them. But he didn’t lead the judgment.
One of the other judges was Swift though
February 13, 2026 at 10:38 AM
One of the other judges was Swift though
They probably said it in the room.
February 13, 2026 at 10:37 AM
They probably said it in the room.
On the other hand, if they’re linking it to the result it’d make more sense to release it when the result is public So they can immediately say their hands are tied?
February 13, 2026 at 10:09 AM
On the other hand, if they’re linking it to the result it’d make more sense to release it when the result is public So they can immediately say their hands are tied?
Do they actually read it out during the five minutes or just summarise the decision?
February 13, 2026 at 9:59 AM
Do they actually read it out during the five minutes or just summarise the decision?
If permission is refused on the basis that the update was withdrawn, that won’t be a ‘disaster’ it’ll just be a ‘status quo‘ mess. A ‘disaster’ would be a lengthy judgment stating that the guidance was right and that trans people’s human rights aren’t being violated, that’s the worst case scenario
February 13, 2026 at 9:58 AM
If permission is refused on the basis that the update was withdrawn, that won’t be a ‘disaster’ it’ll just be a ‘status quo‘ mess. A ‘disaster’ would be a lengthy judgment stating that the guidance was right and that trans people’s human rights aren’t being violated, that’s the worst case scenario
Im a bit concerned that this tone means you’ve seen the judgment and it’s not positive
February 12, 2026 at 7:41 PM
Im a bit concerned that this tone means you’ve seen the judgment and it’s not positive
Sorry what do you mean? The PA decision is listed for 1hr
February 12, 2026 at 5:04 PM
Sorry what do you mean? The PA decision is listed for 1hr
Does the 5 minute slot not concern you? I’d imagine that means it’s more likely permission was denied?
February 12, 2026 at 4:12 PM
Does the 5 minute slot not concern you? I’d imagine that means it’s more likely permission was denied?
I’m not Ashlee, but I am a lawyer and I wonder if this points towards a very simple procedural judgment saying ‘there is no need to consider the arguments because the guidance has been rescinded’.
February 12, 2026 at 3:37 PM
I’m not Ashlee, but I am a lawyer and I wonder if this points towards a very simple procedural judgment saying ‘there is no need to consider the arguments because the guidance has been rescinded’.
What efforts has Labour made to treat trans people as part of that ‘unity’? Where’s the conversion therapy ban?
February 6, 2026 at 2:18 PM
What efforts has Labour made to treat trans people as part of that ‘unity’? Where’s the conversion therapy ban?
Totally unpractical too - where would the wings be and who would finance them? - and there are so few trans prisoners that it could end up being permanent solitary confinement which would violate *other* human rights. They never think the implications through.
February 4, 2026 at 3:17 PM
Totally unpractical too - where would the wings be and who would finance them? - and there are so few trans prisoners that it could end up being permanent solitary confinement which would violate *other* human rights. They never think the implications through.
And distinguishing between beliefs and the manifestation thereof which is a particular bugbear of mine
February 4, 2026 at 1:57 PM
And distinguishing between beliefs and the manifestation thereof which is a particular bugbear of mine
Did they intervene? Or just observing?
February 4, 2026 at 11:57 AM
Did they intervene? Or just observing?
You may be mixing up the EHRC (the UK supposedly-independent human rights body) and the ECHR (European convention on human rights)
February 3, 2026 at 3:19 PM
You may be mixing up the EHRC (the UK supposedly-independent human rights body) and the ECHR (European convention on human rights)
Sorry - you are right!
February 3, 2026 at 2:51 PM
Sorry - you are right!