Interesting ? about how best to get buy-in from the university about investing in DOTs or NTOs. Natalie says a key factor has been that Research England has supported the Hidden REF and is committed to promoting recognition and supporting assessment of NTOs. Unsurprisingly, funders have influence!

Risk-averse universities “hindering REF performance” by ignoring non-traditional research.

Institutions should “pull their socks up”, @nataliejessic10.bsky.social tells the 2025 Hidden REF Festival (@hiddenref.bsky.social).

Free to read: www.researchprofessionalnews.com/rr-news-uk-r...

Exciting to see @nataliejessic10.bsky.social discussing the University of Liverpool's approach to Diverse Research Outputs at the #HiddenREFfestival 🍎🍊

Excellent address by the Uni of Liverpool's Natalie Wallis at #HiddenREF festival (@hiddenref.bsky.social). Report to follow.

In the meantime, here's something Wallis wrote for @resprofnews.bsky.social recently on non-traditional research outputs:

www.researchprofessionalnews.com/rr-news-uk-v...

Ola Thomson introduces the workshop strategy for finding good Heuristics to assess NTO/NTSO/DOTs

It was wonderful opening up the 2025 Hidden REF Festival this morning, talking about the work we are doing at Liverpool to support diverse research outputs💡. Thank you to the Hidden REF team for the invitation #REF
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Next, Gemma Derrick on how Heuristics can be used to judge what is a quality research output
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Liverpool are "pulling up their socks and getting on with it"! They ran their own Diverse Research Output Competition and had many more submissions than they expected.

After the intro from @jwbaker.bsky.social @hiddenref.bsky.social #HiddenREF we have Liverpool DOTs with Natalie Wallis… and so DOTs that is Diverse Output Types… so another name for Non Traditional Outputs… Liverpool have a team to support and promote their development!

First talk is from Natalie Wallis from the University of Liverpool about Diverse Research Outputs and the fear of changing research culture @nataliejessic10.bsky.social

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Society of Research Software Engineering

Excited to be at day 1 of the Hidden REF festival (@hiddenref.bsky.social).

Fair to say it's an interesting time for research assessment. #hiddenref

Thank you to all our generous Sponsors, Research England, and everyone who is joining the fully-booked out Festival of Hidden REF over the next two days! Looking forward to all the discussions!

We're getting ready to welcome everyone to the Festival of Hidden REF at the Think Tank in Birmingham! Very excited to learn about all the interesting work people are doing and meet them in-person!

Listening to #WhatTheRef podcast on the train en route to Birmingham for The Festival of Hidden Ref tomorrow and Weds, perfect listening material, thanks @hiddenref.bsky.social,
I'm giving a lightning talk on Thurs - very much looking forward to this event :)

The Festival of Hidden REF starts one week from today 🎉

You can still grab tickets to watch remotely on Day 2:
www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-festiv...

🎙️ Podcast episode 7 is out now

What the REF is wrong with “culture”?

Listen to What the REF?! via our website, on Youtube or wherever you usually find your podcasts www.youtube.com/watch?v=u47-...

Have a question about REF you'd like answered?
👉 [email protected]

💻 Remote tickets now available for Day 2 of The Festival of Hidden REF!

Couldn’t make it in person? Don’t miss out - join us online!

Q&As will be run through Slido, giving all participants the same opportunity to get their questions answered

www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-festiv...

🎙️ Podcast episode 6 is out now

WTreF does a pause mean?!

Listen to What the REF?! via our website, on Youtube or wherever you usually find your podcasts www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzwP...

Have a question about REF you'd like answered?
👉 [email protected]

We are planning our future episodes for the What the REF?! podcast and need your questions!

If there’s something about the REF that confuses, intrigues, or frustrates you, send it our way 👉 [email protected]

Need some inspiration? Catch up on past episodes here:
hidden-ref.org/what-the-ref/

🎙️ Podcast episode 5 is out now

What the REF are we doing with NTOs?!

Listen to What the REF?! via our website, on Youtube or wherever you usually find your podcasts www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6u9...

Have a question about REF you'd like answered?
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🎉 Day 1 of the Festival is officially sold out! 🎉
We do have a waitlist you can join if tickets become available

💡 Higher capacity for Day 2 - tickets are still available.

📅 Want to know what’s happening on both days and grab your ticket? Head over to our website: hidden-ref.org/the-festival...

Another powerful piece in Research Professional News, by Simon Kerridge, highlighting how the current REF 2029 proposals could unintentionally discourage vital contributions from researchers working outside traditional academic roles.

Read here 👉 www.researchprofessionalnews.com/rr-news-uk-v...

New article in Research Professional News: "Vague rules will not dispel the REF’s climate of caution"

Inclusive assessment needs stronger backing, say Gemma Derrick, Elizabeth Gadd, Simon Hettrick and James Baker.

Read the full article 👉 www.researchprofessionalnews.com/rr-news-uk-v...