Jake
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“We should all emulate the virtues of the rattle snake: strong communication and good follow through” PDX 13 month year evangelist Lobbyist Gym I work in politics, my views/posts are my own and do not reflect my employer’s Building Code/Housing/HVAC nerd
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The end-all-be-all take on Abundance: 1/n

An Abundance movement quickly formed around the book that seemed more interested in backing the moderate establishment wing in intra-Democratic party fights than they were in the book itself. (i.e. Ritchie Torres, Matt Yglesias, etc.)
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Lmao this you? Where that tenderness at
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But I’ll stay on my high horse of thinking it’s weird that ppl online would consign millions to death and suffering for the greater good but also be very blase about it, like it’s the obvious choice and clearly moral
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I’m not arguing one side or the other and if you were literate the way i am you could see that
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Look man, those were your words.
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Not an answer to what I asked. You say the ends justify the means, so own what that really mean: you would sacrifice anyone, up till a point that you can’t or won’t name.
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I believe the point of politics is to gain and wield power to repair the world, and that if you follow the logic of the ends justifying the means past a certain point you are no longer engaged in that work. It’s easier for people to imagine winning by causing harm than imagine winning any other way
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Ends justify the means, got it. Does that logic have a limit for you before the “N minus 1” point?
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Maybe but I think the idea that putting off doing covid stimmy for an extra year would have avoided that is really spurious
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That’s not what I asked. Do you personally, morally, feel like the logic of the ends justifying the means has a limit beyond “N minus 1”
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So, no limits on the ends justifying the means for you then?
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Is there any group you wouldn’t throw under the bus if it juiced the coalition’s odds of winning?
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So, ends justify the means. In this case, hundreds of thousands more dead, massive recession, unemployment around 20%, all born by the most marginalized in our society.

Any limits to what the ends justify for you?
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Ends justify the means, got it. Any limit to that for you?
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Like the underlying assumption is dubious and the actual means are clearly evil. This is a murc’s law + Dems just gotta adjust the dial like a price is right contestant combo. For better or worse, people who think like this cannot and do not get elected.
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I understand the logic but this is not in any way distinct from saying that the Dems should throw a marginalized group under the bus to win. “We gotta accept/cause some suffering because the ends justify the means.” All predicated on the idea that America can even learn from the touching the stove.
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So let’s be clear about the implication here. Would you agree the outcome of that would be:
Hundreds of thousands more dead
Unemployment pushing north of 15%
Much worse recession
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So, a massive recession, unemployment up to 20% and a few hundred thousand more dead would be worth it? I’m not speaking to the merits, I just want to be clear eyed about what we’re talking about here.
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Yeah not letting him put his name on the check is the realistic middle ground
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He didn’t win off covid stimulus, he lost an election a few months after. The degree to which he won off covid stimulus in 2024 is debatable
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So, should Dems have spiked COVID relief and stimulus in 2020 until after the election when they took a trifecta?
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Gunna have to delete this one in a moment
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I work on a collaborative team, not as an extension of my boss’s political will!
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I do not owe my career in any way to my boss’s name or clout, nor is my boss themself synonymous with the work that I’ve done. My work is submitted and recognized under my own name, not my boss’s. My work is often independent.

Exact opposite for many hill offices. This creates some culture issues.
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Mariners were leading 3 to 0 when I had to turn off the game. Safe to assume they have it in the bag. Go team!
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Gunna need someone with a JD to parse this for me. Seems okay but not great?
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LAWSUIT UPDATE RE: NATIONAL GUARD IN PORTLAND: The Ninth Circuit just granted an administrative stay preserving the status quo: the Oregon National Guard remains federalized but the president cannot deploy them.

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