To add - it's entirely intentional to target Blue states and cities hardest (and then broadcast it). Taps into the rural/urban divides, the Red vs Blue divides, that this is happening because "they" are not like "us" and what happens to them is because of how "they" are and not "I"

People will never get to enjoy my Geocities pages and it's tragic.

Didn't know they were coming through Ontario! May have to check this one out as well.

Holding governments accountable is not treason!

I definitely agree that messaging broke through and a lot of the population took supportive actions. I would also argue that the messaging has also been damaged by what looks like a lack of commitment by the current government to follow through, just not great for morale.

Personally, I would fall into the camp that signals are being largely ignored.

I don't disagree, consumer habits, protesting, collective actions are signals towards governments to take. I think a large source of present frustration is the current *vibe* that those signals are being ignored. Or worse, those with power use that as evidence that consumer action is enough.

Well the beautiful thing is no one has to agree with me, at the end of the day I'm a random internet person.

In my view, citizens would also have greater tangible impacts on those other pieces if gov policy followed their own rhetoric/campaigning and I think that applies in this scenario too.

Although individual action is important, how often are large scale issues downloaded onto ndividuals? Recycling, environmental, etc. while governments and corps get free passes. I appreciate the complexities therein but it's all exhausting when the individual is framed to bear sole responsibility.

I'm starting to think a diverse and inclusive society that values cultural and academic knowledges and practises might be a net good? Is anyone talking about this???

That is a super insightful observation - appreciate that!

To that end and rounding back to something positive, I forgot who mentioned it, but whether it pans out well or not (to be seen), Mamdani campaigned on restoring a sense of joy and pride in public service as a public good. Something progressive politicians in Canada could hopefully learn from.

Yeah and it's really mission accomplished. If you have no trust in anything government, why would you trust UBI?

I wonder how much of that is rooted in some exceptionalism, that some maintain plausible deniability out of issues or believe they're blown out of proportion because "we are good smart" or "too safe and protected" to let it happen to us. Decorum ending up being the language and ethics of passivity.

And the erosion of trust and effectiveness in institutions is very deliberate and purposeful - and is one of the fundamental drivers of Canada/US politics (can't speak to other places).

The idea of institutions is so interesting. IMO we have these collective cultural connections to institutions like health care of public service in general that is so often just weaponized for politics - either overtly that they're bad or covertly that they're so good we don't need to invest.

Sure there's barriers and challenges in implementating of UBI, but is anyone who is serious about the conversion (and in good faith) thinking the present approach is a healthy societal response to community care? So much vested interest in maintaining status quo or eroding supports.