Would be fun to chat about whether your data also conforms to our model of self-other generalisation... its in the correct format (and uses a fehr-schmidt function as in ours) so it would be quite straght forward to fit!
December 16, 2025 at 1:44 AM
Would be fun to chat about whether your data also conforms to our model of self-other generalisation... its in the correct format (and uses a fehr-schmidt function as in ours) so it would be quite straght forward to fit!
The utility function captures the latent/type of partner within a phase, but I meant between phases. The way we formulate it is to say that representations of self and other have some degree of porosity, so the latents that define each transfer a bit between phases.
December 16, 2025 at 1:43 AM
The utility function captures the latent/type of partner within a phase, but I meant between phases. The way we formulate it is to say that representations of self and other have some degree of porosity, so the latents that define each transfer a bit between phases.
We found a very similar thing! you mention that an RL generalisation model didn’t quite fit vs the utility model, but did you try the utility model with a generalisation component? Would be keen to see if your data fitted our model well
We found a very similar thing! you mention that an RL generalisation model didn’t quite fit vs the utility model, but did you try the utility model with a generalisation component? Would be keen to see if your data fitted our model well
Yes I think this complexity is certainly front-and-centre in our appraisal of the results, although we do see some (tentative) evidence of symptom specificity. We're digging into this further.
December 10, 2025 at 4:33 AM
Yes I think this complexity is certainly front-and-centre in our appraisal of the results, although we do see some (tentative) evidence of symptom specificity. We're digging into this further.
Yes that would be really satisfying, both if this model could distinguish therapies or track reported improvement in interpersonal satisfaction - I suspect the story will be far more complex and against my best predictions, but one can hope :)
December 9, 2025 at 11:41 AM
Yes that would be really satisfying, both if this model could distinguish therapies or track reported improvement in interpersonal satisfaction - I suspect the story will be far more complex and against my best predictions, but one can hope :)
My prediction would be that, like our Elife paper, raw predictive accuracy would not change, but the process to get there would be more integrated (with successful therapy, folks would become less model M4 and more model M1, as defined in the paper) - we're working on testing this 👀
December 9, 2025 at 12:29 AM
My prediction would be that, like our Elife paper, raw predictive accuracy would not change, but the process to get there would be more integrated (with successful therapy, folks would become less model M4 and more model M1, as defined in the paper) - we're working on testing this 👀
Yes thats true. Concerning Autism and I defer to @leoschilbach.bsky.social for a more detail, but my analysis is that neurotype communication is successful within-group, and only in autistic/non-austistic pairs do you see mentalising discrepancies (see journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1...)
December 9, 2025 at 12:27 AM
Yes thats true. Concerning Autism and I defer to @leoschilbach.bsky.social for a more detail, but my analysis is that neurotype communication is successful within-group, and only in autistic/non-austistic pairs do you see mentalising discrepancies (see journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1...)
Thanks for sharing! Of interest, we note that those with a diag. of BPD were no less accurate at predicting the future actions of others; they just used a different method to get there. We argue that this difference might also raise the risk of instability in interpersonal bonds.
December 8, 2025 at 1:45 AM
Thanks for sharing! Of interest, we note that those with a diag. of BPD were no less accurate at predicting the future actions of others; they just used a different method to get there. We argue that this difference might also raise the risk of instability in interpersonal bonds.