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Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 10h

Aw Dale, I'm so sorry. My condolences.

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Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 1d

I am in.

Zack Polanski @zackpolanski.bsky.social · 2d

Let's make hope normal again.

youtu.be/qxt4HCjd7VA?...

Let's Make Hope Normal Again - Green Party Political Broadcast

YouTube video by Green Party of England & Wales

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Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 1d

Happy Birthday Daan!

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Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 1d

Haha it certainly is very hard to not be cynical at the moment... but, what people are interested in design wise (as consumers) comes in waves imo. Bonk.

Stuffed Wombat @stuffedwomb.at · Jul 8

small games by tiny devs finding huge success by dropping all notions of expression and focusing on dopamine delivery has done some sort of heavy damage to whatever I believed in in the 2010s about game design

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Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 1d

Jesus.

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Promise Mascot Agency OUT NOW! 🛻✨💕 Kaizen Game Works @kaizengameworks.com · 5d

lmao

Golden Joysticks Best Indie Game: Self Published nominee: Hades 2

Golden Joysticks Best Indie Game: Self Published nominee: Deltarune

Golden Joysticks Best Indie Game: Self Published nominee: Hollow Knight: Silksong

Golden Joysticks Best Indie Game: Self Published nominee: Promise Mascot Agency (lol)

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Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 3d

Yeah agreed. The "what is this person in relation to you" for your household question, when I am the only person in my household threw me a little. But, was generally pretty standard.

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Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 3d

Yeah just did it, thank god one thing in this country that's an online form was easy... haha.

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Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 3d

Turns out yes. Goddamnit.

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Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 3d

Do we HAVE to do it?

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Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 6d

No, I totally agree with you on that. Steam's largest issue is the complete lack of curation, which means lowering your game to the lowest possible bottom line for visibility = bad. I definitely agree.

Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 6d

Haha not to disagree, your question of asking was "Do devs control steam sales?" - not, "How many devs do opt out?".

That itself is a larger question, that is ultimately not really related to value necessarily. That can be a myriad of factors such as; is it doing well? How long since launch? etc

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Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 6d

100% control. The amount. Opting in. All of it.

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Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 7d

I don't disagree with you. But, at least discounts are decided and controlled by Devs. But, yeah they all are indicative of a wider problem.

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Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 7d

It just isn't a conversation point I'm having about this issue. (3 posts down, I literally say "I can see how poor anti-consumer this is"... so 🤷)

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Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 7d

Because the post isn't about value for the consumer, it's about the effect GP and it's original pricing had on the perceived consumer value of video games and the detrimental effect. I'm a dev, commenting about a dev issue and then how we all eventually ended up here at $30 anyway.

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Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 7d

"Forgot" lol. I mean it's a matter of value preference... it still doesn't change my point about the original pricing being wrong in general. Same as purchasing coffee from a cafe vs supermarket bought vs home grinded etc.

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Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 7d

I mean, I agree with you that they weren't necessarily in the strongest of spots. But, the "netflix of games" was certainly something many was asking for and this was as close as it got. I think the biggest miss was also the awful ways they tied it into Xbox Live.

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Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 7d

If you're thinking that yes, it would have continued to scale in price... beyond 40/50 bucks. Then perhaps.

Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 7d

But, it isn't... it's literally half the price of one copy of a new Halo with 200+ games bundled.

I absolutely disagree that with this as an initial pricing point it would have changed the userbase numbers it grew to. There was nothing else like it, $30 for a seemingly unlimited amount of titles?

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Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 7d

I'm going to slightly add a caveat to this post of it seemingly being a thread about GP, instead of "game value". I think while GP has definitely contributed to the devaluing, alongside other subscription/F2P. It's also offered funding for game creators in a way really unseen before (less so now).

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Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 7d

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Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 7d

Not to completely play devil's advocate... but, $30 should have been the price from the start. A premium service, that offers games that retail at $40/50/60/70+ at "anytime", "anywhere", "no restrictions" pricing wouldn't have tanked the game economy of "how much is a game worth" for half a decade.

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Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 7d

I could go ON-AND-ON lol, about how also subscription services changed game design forever too. With the player ability to just hop in and play something for 5 mins, then try something else. Ala, how TikTok changed content. But, hey, that's someone else's GDC talk another day.

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Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 7d

I mean, I'm sure they thought the income subsidization of big titles Halo, Gears, Forza being on there but still being purchased would have balanced it all out. But, with the change of what is a console now and how "exclusives" changed, it really didn't work out.

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Liam E 🚲 🦝TANUKI @liambme.bsky.social · 7d

Totally in agreement about the poor anti-consumer nature of this change. Definitely not defending MS either, as they made a rod for their own back.

But, with someone who's game will come to GPass eventually. This could have all been a different outcome if games were still valued appropriately.

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