Mr Lee Bates
@mrbates.bsky.social
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The tension arises because one group equates the measurable slice with the whole, while the other recognises that the unmeasured parts really matter—even if we currently lack the tools to capture them.
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December 10, 2025 at 5:17 PM
The tension arises because one group equates the measurable slice with the whole, while the other recognises that the unmeasured parts really matter—even if we currently lack the tools to capture them.
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Meanwhile, researchers emphasise that X works, because in the narrow area they can measure, it definitely does. And other strategies do not produce the same measurable gains, they argue that X must be the best path forward.
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December 10, 2025 at 5:16 PM
Meanwhile, researchers emphasise that X works, because in the narrow area they can measure, it definitely does. And other strategies do not produce the same measurable gains, they argue that X must be the best path forward.
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Others sense something missing. They can see the measured part improving, yet feel that larger, harder-to-describe aspects of health are being overlooked. They can’t measure these parts, or even define them cleanly—but they feel really important.
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December 10, 2025 at 5:16 PM
Others sense something missing. They can see the measured part improving, yet feel that larger, harder-to-describe aspects of health are being overlooked. They can’t measure these parts, or even define them cleanly—but they feel really important.
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Imagine there’s a valuable thing everyone wants more of—call it “health.” We develop tools to measure it, but they only capture a tiny slice of what “health” really is. Research shows doing X reliably improves that small slice, people begin to claim“If you do X, health improves.”
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December 10, 2025 at 5:16 PM
Imagine there’s a valuable thing everyone wants more of—call it “health.” We develop tools to measure it, but they only capture a tiny slice of what “health” really is. Research shows doing X reliably improves that small slice, people begin to claim“If you do X, health improves.”
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Here’s how I framed the problem with “evidence based teaching” or “SoL” over on X.
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December 10, 2025 at 5:15 PM
Here’s how I framed the problem with “evidence based teaching” or “SoL” over on X.
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Yes. Deep ideas do need a book’s worth of explanation to attempt to minimise the misinterpretations.
December 9, 2025 at 11:32 AM
Yes. Deep ideas do need a book’s worth of explanation to attempt to minimise the misinterpretations.
Fair enough.
And yes It might.
But if it can be explained I think it will more so.
And yes It might.
But if it can be explained I think it will more so.
December 9, 2025 at 10:00 AM
Fair enough.
And yes It might.
But if it can be explained I think it will more so.
And yes It might.
But if it can be explained I think it will more so.
But you must see Christian that the quote in the original post is riddled with open ambiguity of meaning.
Your interpretation of the words will most likely be different from even another enactivists interpretation (although you are most likely to nod & agree because of a kind of group reinforcement)
Your interpretation of the words will most likely be different from even another enactivists interpretation (although you are most likely to nod & agree because of a kind of group reinforcement)
December 9, 2025 at 9:45 AM
But you must see Christian that the quote in the original post is riddled with open ambiguity of meaning.
Your interpretation of the words will most likely be different from even another enactivists interpretation (although you are most likely to nod & agree because of a kind of group reinforcement)
Your interpretation of the words will most likely be different from even another enactivists interpretation (although you are most likely to nod & agree because of a kind of group reinforcement)
I am trying to understand what is included and not included in the word action/interaction/enaction. Once I have understood what that includes and does not include I can then think about what it means for enaction to ‘bring forth a world’.
December 9, 2025 at 9:40 AM
I am trying to understand what is included and not included in the word action/interaction/enaction. Once I have understood what that includes and does not include I can then think about what it means for enaction to ‘bring forth a world’.
And if we broaden our definition, what exactly does it not include?
What distinction are the trying to make by making intentionality important?
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What distinction are the trying to make by making intentionality important?
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December 9, 2025 at 9:12 AM
And if we broaden our definition, what exactly does it not include?
What distinction are the trying to make by making intentionality important?
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What distinction are the trying to make by making intentionality important?
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It implies enactivist action includes all kind of doing that has some intentionality, decision making.
Depending on your definition of intentionality and decision making this could exclude a lot of action. /2
Depending on your definition of intentionality and decision making this could exclude a lot of action. /2
December 9, 2025 at 9:12 AM
It implies enactivist action includes all kind of doing that has some intentionality, decision making.
Depending on your definition of intentionality and decision making this could exclude a lot of action. /2
Depending on your definition of intentionality and decision making this could exclude a lot of action. /2
This gets me closer to what entails action from an enactivist perspective.
It answers my first Q. Enactivist action definitely includes non observable movement actions.
But I’m still not happy.
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It answers my first Q. Enactivist action definitely includes non observable movement actions.
But I’m still not happy.
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December 9, 2025 at 9:11 AM
This gets me closer to what entails action from an enactivist perspective.
It answers my first Q. Enactivist action definitely includes non observable movement actions.
But I’m still not happy.
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It answers my first Q. Enactivist action definitely includes non observable movement actions.
But I’m still not happy.
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😀 Christian that is one of the distinctions I am trying to make. So of course it feels like dualism.
1. Does enactivism include actions that occur purely in my experience with no observable motion.
2. Does it include actions that are subconscious to me? Such as a change in filtration by my kidney?
1. Does enactivism include actions that occur purely in my experience with no observable motion.
2. Does it include actions that are subconscious to me? Such as a change in filtration by my kidney?
December 9, 2025 at 7:43 AM
😀 Christian that is one of the distinctions I am trying to make. So of course it feels like dualism.
1. Does enactivism include actions that occur purely in my experience with no observable motion.
2. Does it include actions that are subconscious to me? Such as a change in filtration by my kidney?
1. Does enactivism include actions that occur purely in my experience with no observable motion.
2. Does it include actions that are subconscious to me? Such as a change in filtration by my kidney?
But from your answers it looks like you can’t get to enactivist answers from enactivism either.
You have dismissed the question due to assumed interpretation of semantics
You have dismissed the question due to assumed interpretation of semantics
December 9, 2025 at 7:25 AM
But from your answers it looks like you can’t get to enactivist answers from enactivism either.
You have dismissed the question due to assumed interpretation of semantics
You have dismissed the question due to assumed interpretation of semantics
How do I bring forth novel stuff in the world if to bring forth I firstly need to interact but how can I interact if I have not already brought forth the thing I am interacting with?
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December 9, 2025 at 6:45 AM
How do I bring forth novel stuff in the world if to bring forth I firstly need to interact but how can I interact if I have not already brought forth the thing I am interacting with?
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So everything that is experienced consciously or subconsciously is an enacted action that brings forth a world that I am consciously or subconsciously aware of and that world is something I can in some way interact with.
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December 9, 2025 at 6:45 AM
So everything that is experienced consciously or subconsciously is an enacted action that brings forth a world that I am consciously or subconsciously aware of and that world is something I can in some way interact with.
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Does that mean enactive actions can be purely cognitive?
December 8, 2025 at 8:31 PM
Does that mean enactive actions can be purely cognitive?
Am I bringing forth a world?
December 8, 2025 at 6:35 PM
Am I bringing forth a world?
And if I watch you bringing forth a world what do I see?
December 8, 2025 at 6:29 PM
And if I watch you bringing forth a world what do I see?
It’s a dilemma. The theory has no real meaning without the practice. Even with the practice there is no guarantee any particular theory will be relevant to that practice because of the complex unique nature of every teacher pupil interaction. It’s a dilemma.
December 7, 2025 at 2:10 PM
It’s a dilemma. The theory has no real meaning without the practice. Even with the practice there is no guarantee any particular theory will be relevant to that practice because of the complex unique nature of every teacher pupil interaction. It’s a dilemma.
I imagine, if I did not confidently understand one or two of these associated meanings then I would quickly become confused about what an isotope is.
December 7, 2025 at 1:15 PM
I imagine, if I did not confidently understand one or two of these associated meanings then I would quickly become confused about what an isotope is.
Hi Brett. I’ve just done my best job of doing a cognitive task analysis on what we are asking pupils to do when we ask them to understand the word isotope.
I started with the most common description of an isotope,annotated with the associated meaning & then identified what I rely on.
I started with the most common description of an isotope,annotated with the associated meaning & then identified what I rely on.
December 7, 2025 at 1:08 PM
Hi Brett. I’ve just done my best job of doing a cognitive task analysis on what we are asking pupils to do when we ask them to understand the word isotope.
I started with the most common description of an isotope,annotated with the associated meaning & then identified what I rely on.
I started with the most common description of an isotope,annotated with the associated meaning & then identified what I rely on.
@physicsmrh.bsky.social what do you think is going on?
December 6, 2025 at 12:28 PM
@physicsmrh.bsky.social what do you think is going on?
I think teachers naturally build interleaving into their teaching. Once pupils have a ‘good’ understanding of the thing we then vary the applications of that thing.
Often it’s very tricky to isolate interleaving from standard practice.
So providing generalisable instructions is tenuous
Often it’s very tricky to isolate interleaving from standard practice.
So providing generalisable instructions is tenuous
December 6, 2025 at 12:23 PM
I think teachers naturally build interleaving into their teaching. Once pupils have a ‘good’ understanding of the thing we then vary the applications of that thing.
Often it’s very tricky to isolate interleaving from standard practice.
So providing generalisable instructions is tenuous
Often it’s very tricky to isolate interleaving from standard practice.
So providing generalisable instructions is tenuous