I saw that post last night and logged off. These people are so far up their own asses it's really quite remarkable.

Whether you think Democrats should have pushed the shutdown further or not, at this point you have control over whether *you* give up, and a lot of you have decided that yessir you absolutely will.

If they weren't going to do it then how were their backs against the wall? Stop speaking in cliches and platitudes and just say what the clear, achievable win was from this fight and how we realistically were going to get there.

If so you should be able to point to the actual achievable win. I'm going to give you a hint, the GOP was never, ever going to cave on ACA subsidies.

Barstool guy has a crap take...it must be a day that ends in Y. FWIW, I think Walker just wants someone else to win the Heisman and thinks Gus' call is unfair influence.

You...didn't answer the question.

I think you're another voice of reason that we need around here and it would suck to lose you, but I also understand the impulse to go because a lot of people on here are insufferable. I don't use Discord, but just wanted to let you know anyway.

Serious question: what was the achievable win? And remember the "social mandate" and "moral authority" don't count when it comes to congressional votes.

I, a Bluesky user with 600 followers (mainly because I haven't done a cleanup to block bots lately), quoted an account with 15k followers that I disagreed with and got two responses.

You:

Was it the "I like Outsourced better" comment that really fired you up? Ha ha

Thanks for proving my point dipshit. Lol

There are very frequently days that I will not participate on this website because it's just less painful to let the very loud people continue to be wrong rather than say something and get dog piled by their followers.