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Only actions can affect reality. Only that which affects reality can be immoral.
Viewing these movies as "heterosexual propaganda" instead of y'know, love stories, is unhinged behaviour.
December 2, 2024 at 2:46 PM
Viewing these movies as "heterosexual propaganda" instead of y'know, love stories, is unhinged behaviour.
Most lolis have large aspects of pre-pubescent body types, and are typically representations of children in most manga, anime, and doujins. Lolibabas don't disprove this.
Whatever philosophy you use to judge art has to apply to all fiction, not just lolis, so you cannot just say "not loli so bad".
Whatever philosophy you use to judge art has to apply to all fiction, not just lolis, so you cannot just say "not loli so bad".
December 2, 2024 at 12:34 PM
Most lolis have large aspects of pre-pubescent body types, and are typically representations of children in most manga, anime, and doujins. Lolibabas don't disprove this.
Whatever philosophy you use to judge art has to apply to all fiction, not just lolis, so you cannot just say "not loli so bad".
Whatever philosophy you use to judge art has to apply to all fiction, not just lolis, so you cannot just say "not loli so bad".
I'm not misunderstanding what you're saying, I'm disagreeing with you.
It doesnt matter how indistinguishable it is, the fact remains that it is fictional and thus harms nobody. Your personal disgust or dislike for an attraction doesnt make it immoral, just as an anti's doesnt.
It doesnt matter how indistinguishable it is, the fact remains that it is fictional and thus harms nobody. Your personal disgust or dislike for an attraction doesnt make it immoral, just as an anti's doesnt.
December 2, 2024 at 12:20 PM
I'm not misunderstanding what you're saying, I'm disagreeing with you.
It doesnt matter how indistinguishable it is, the fact remains that it is fictional and thus harms nobody. Your personal disgust or dislike for an attraction doesnt make it immoral, just as an anti's doesnt.
It doesnt matter how indistinguishable it is, the fact remains that it is fictional and thus harms nobody. Your personal disgust or dislike for an attraction doesnt make it immoral, just as an anti's doesnt.
If you draw the line of whats acceptable right below where you stand then you cannot call yourself a lolicon. You can like lolis, but your philosophy and reasoning is that of an anti's.
ALL fiction is acceptable, regardless of any laws or emotional backlash.
ALL fiction is acceptable, regardless of any laws or emotional backlash.
December 2, 2024 at 12:01 PM
If you draw the line of whats acceptable right below where you stand then you cannot call yourself a lolicon. You can like lolis, but your philosophy and reasoning is that of an anti's.
ALL fiction is acceptable, regardless of any laws or emotional backlash.
ALL fiction is acceptable, regardless of any laws or emotional backlash.
"in our culture"
I rest my case
I rest my case
November 9, 2024 at 10:20 AM
"in our culture"
I rest my case
I rest my case
No, it isnt. It can only be considered sexual by the standards of a particular culture. At which point, why should we care for what specific cultures categorise as "sexual"? The material matter of the situation remains unchanged, and ultimately completely harmless.
November 9, 2024 at 10:20 AM
No, it isnt. It can only be considered sexual by the standards of a particular culture. At which point, why should we care for what specific cultures categorise as "sexual"? The material matter of the situation remains unchanged, and ultimately completely harmless.
A dance is only sexual if you percieve it as such. Different cultures will view different dances as acceptance/unacceptable. The only way you could imply immorality is to suggest that sexual perspectives are somehow exploitative (which is completely silly, since they're thoughts).
November 6, 2024 at 12:26 PM
A dance is only sexual if you percieve it as such. Different cultures will view different dances as acceptance/unacceptable. The only way you could imply immorality is to suggest that sexual perspectives are somehow exploitative (which is completely silly, since they're thoughts).
I'm not sure whether there's any papers on lolicon specifically.
However, a studys by Milton Diamond suggested a significant negative correlation between general and CSAM pornography availability and sexual crime rates.
This is his study on the czech republic:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21116701/
However, a studys by Milton Diamond suggested a significant negative correlation between general and CSAM pornography availability and sexual crime rates.
This is his study on the czech republic:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21116701/
Pornography and sex crimes in the Czech Republic - PubMed
Pornography continues to be a contentious matter with those on the one side arguing it detrimental to society while others argue it is pleasurable to many and a feature of free speech. The advent of t...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
October 22, 2024 at 9:44 PM
I'm not sure whether there's any papers on lolicon specifically.
However, a studys by Milton Diamond suggested a significant negative correlation between general and CSAM pornography availability and sexual crime rates.
This is his study on the czech republic:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21116701/
However, a studys by Milton Diamond suggested a significant negative correlation between general and CSAM pornography availability and sexual crime rates.
This is his study on the czech republic:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21116701/
I see, well I guess I cant convince you past this point then.
October 21, 2024 at 10:59 PM
I see, well I guess I cant convince you past this point then.
I think that if you went back before the 1970's when homosexuality was still considered a paraphilia, that your argument would also apply to that.
I think the idea that the majority of people have to believe something, for some valid reason, is silly. People are irrational and emotional.
I think the idea that the majority of people have to believe something, for some valid reason, is silly. People are irrational and emotional.
October 21, 2024 at 10:55 PM
I think that if you went back before the 1970's when homosexuality was still considered a paraphilia, that your argument would also apply to that.
I think the idea that the majority of people have to believe something, for some valid reason, is silly. People are irrational and emotional.
I think the idea that the majority of people have to believe something, for some valid reason, is silly. People are irrational and emotional.
True, but thats because the common person doesnt know about it or is exposed to it. I think most people would be disgusted if you showed them.
However, I do think lolicon is growing as anime and its culture expands.
However, I do think lolicon is growing as anime and its culture expands.
October 21, 2024 at 10:48 PM
True, but thats because the common person doesnt know about it or is exposed to it. I think most people would be disgusted if you showed them.
However, I do think lolicon is growing as anime and its culture expands.
However, I do think lolicon is growing as anime and its culture expands.
I cant really say anything except I disagree.
I think most pedophiles view CSA just as heinously as most people, thats why the suicide rate is high among them.
They end up viewing themselves as evil and a threat, when I dont think they should. All attractions can rape and are threats of such.
I think most pedophiles view CSA just as heinously as most people, thats why the suicide rate is high among them.
They end up viewing themselves as evil and a threat, when I dont think they should. All attractions can rape and are threats of such.
October 21, 2024 at 10:47 PM
I cant really say anything except I disagree.
I think most pedophiles view CSA just as heinously as most people, thats why the suicide rate is high among them.
They end up viewing themselves as evil and a threat, when I dont think they should. All attractions can rape and are threats of such.
I think most pedophiles view CSA just as heinously as most people, thats why the suicide rate is high among them.
They end up viewing themselves as evil and a threat, when I dont think they should. All attractions can rape and are threats of such.
This seems like a pretty silly thing to assume of an entire population doesnt it? Anti's arent a small group, they're the majority in many countries (canada, uk, australia etc.)
I think the projection idea is overplayed by lolicons. Its just hatred because we're associated with CSA.
I think the projection idea is overplayed by lolicons. Its just hatred because we're associated with CSA.
October 21, 2024 at 10:43 PM
This seems like a pretty silly thing to assume of an entire population doesnt it? Anti's arent a small group, they're the majority in many countries (canada, uk, australia etc.)
I think the projection idea is overplayed by lolicons. Its just hatred because we're associated with CSA.
I think the projection idea is overplayed by lolicons. Its just hatred because we're associated with CSA.
I dont think it really works at all. It seems to just cause suicides and a fear of going to therapy (especially in countries with mandatory reporting laws).
I dont think stigma is an effective way to stop anyone from doing something, it just alienates them and makes them think it doesnt matter.
I dont think stigma is an effective way to stop anyone from doing something, it just alienates them and makes them think it doesnt matter.
October 21, 2024 at 10:40 PM
I dont think it really works at all. It seems to just cause suicides and a fear of going to therapy (especially in countries with mandatory reporting laws).
I dont think stigma is an effective way to stop anyone from doing something, it just alienates them and makes them think it doesnt matter.
I dont think stigma is an effective way to stop anyone from doing something, it just alienates them and makes them think it doesnt matter.
I also think thats why lolicon is hated aswell, its the same effect.
October 21, 2024 at 10:33 PM
I also think thats why lolicon is hated aswell, its the same effect.
I think that pedophilia is hated because its closely associated with CSA. The same sort of effect you could see in the past with homosexuality.
I think ideally, it gets destigmatised so people who have bad impulse control or antisocial disorders can get help before they hurt someone.
I think ideally, it gets destigmatised so people who have bad impulse control or antisocial disorders can get help before they hurt someone.
October 21, 2024 at 10:32 PM
I think that pedophilia is hated because its closely associated with CSA. The same sort of effect you could see in the past with homosexuality.
I think ideally, it gets destigmatised so people who have bad impulse control or antisocial disorders can get help before they hurt someone.
I think ideally, it gets destigmatised so people who have bad impulse control or antisocial disorders can get help before they hurt someone.
A convincing stat for me is that most child abuse (ranges 50-80%) is caused by non-pedophile family and typically is a result of sexual frustration and opportunity.
Predatory pedophiles typically have antisocial personality disorder (aka psychopathy), indicating something else than the attraction.
Predatory pedophiles typically have antisocial personality disorder (aka psychopathy), indicating something else than the attraction.
October 21, 2024 at 10:12 PM
A convincing stat for me is that most child abuse (ranges 50-80%) is caused by non-pedophile family and typically is a result of sexual frustration and opportunity.
Predatory pedophiles typically have antisocial personality disorder (aka psychopathy), indicating something else than the attraction.
Predatory pedophiles typically have antisocial personality disorder (aka psychopathy), indicating something else than the attraction.
I dont think thats true, according to what I've seen in studies most pedophiles are entirely innocent. There doesnt seem to be much correlation between aggressive sexual behaviour and having the attraction.
October 21, 2024 at 9:59 PM
I dont think thats true, according to what I've seen in studies most pedophiles are entirely innocent. There doesnt seem to be much correlation between aggressive sexual behaviour and having the attraction.
Fair enough, I'll be glad if you can prove me wrong.
October 21, 2024 at 9:53 PM
Fair enough, I'll be glad if you can prove me wrong.
I think all attractions are amoral, neither good nor bad, since they cant affect anything by themselves, and so cant cause harm.
I think morality only concerns actions, since thats what actually causes the suffering in sexual abuse.
I think morality only concerns actions, since thats what actually causes the suffering in sexual abuse.
October 21, 2024 at 9:52 PM
I think all attractions are amoral, neither good nor bad, since they cant affect anything by themselves, and so cant cause harm.
I think morality only concerns actions, since thats what actually causes the suffering in sexual abuse.
I think morality only concerns actions, since thats what actually causes the suffering in sexual abuse.
I understand your position, you seem to be trying to ease them into understanding, I dont neccesarily have an issue with that.
However, I dont think it ever works. Only people who are open or curious enough to listen to something they see as evil, with an open mind, will ever be converted.
However, I dont think it ever works. Only people who are open or curious enough to listen to something they see as evil, with an open mind, will ever be converted.
October 21, 2024 at 9:49 PM
I understand your position, you seem to be trying to ease them into understanding, I dont neccesarily have an issue with that.
However, I dont think it ever works. Only people who are open or curious enough to listen to something they see as evil, with an open mind, will ever be converted.
However, I dont think it ever works. Only people who are open or curious enough to listen to something they see as evil, with an open mind, will ever be converted.
It sounds bad because people generally see pedophilia as an evil attraction, but it doesn't change the truth of the statement.
However, I see the error in viewing an attraction as innately evil, not in seeing a similarity between the two attractions.
However, I see the error in viewing an attraction as innately evil, not in seeing a similarity between the two attractions.
October 21, 2024 at 9:44 PM
It sounds bad because people generally see pedophilia as an evil attraction, but it doesn't change the truth of the statement.
However, I see the error in viewing an attraction as innately evil, not in seeing a similarity between the two attractions.
However, I see the error in viewing an attraction as innately evil, not in seeing a similarity between the two attractions.
The gf meme is a joke, but its also a clear example of using a loli as a reference for a child.
Another example might be the emoji in your bio. Its a reference to japanese children namebadges. Its also a common lolicon icon.
Another example might be the emoji in your bio. Its a reference to japanese children namebadges. Its also a common lolicon icon.
October 21, 2024 at 9:41 PM
The gf meme is a joke, but its also a clear example of using a loli as a reference for a child.
Another example might be the emoji in your bio. Its a reference to japanese children namebadges. Its also a common lolicon icon.
Another example might be the emoji in your bio. Its a reference to japanese children namebadges. Its also a common lolicon icon.
"legally"
This makes me instantly lose interest, Im not speaking in the domain of law here, and regardless laws are different depending on the country.
This makes me instantly lose interest, Im not speaking in the domain of law here, and regardless laws are different depending on the country.
October 21, 2024 at 9:36 PM
"legally"
This makes me instantly lose interest, Im not speaking in the domain of law here, and regardless laws are different depending on the country.
This makes me instantly lose interest, Im not speaking in the domain of law here, and regardless laws are different depending on the country.