Deliberative and participatory processes are both needed. Most deliberative process have been run by central or local government authorities but they don't have to be as seen in the Porirua Assembly, the UK Power 2010 campaign & the Australian citizens jury on disability insurance

Well said, Deb. The only thing I would add is that James Kierstead knows quite a bit about deliberative democracy as shown when he interviewed Hugh Pope from DemocracyNext about sortition and citizens assemblies. www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF37...