It's bullshit like this that got us to this point and it's why folks like you are not left, progressive or whatever else term you co-opt.

And I am not the same and didn't support this party to do the same. Everyone thinking it could go on longer is not listening to aid groups saying that they can't manage the demand. We weren't going to depose him with this shut down.

I can't figure out why that's surprising. Have people not seen the man?

I'm sorry. It's why I'm not mad. The GOP had 2 hostage populations numbering in the millions.

Anyone naming themselves abolitionist is dishonest.

People can either accept that this is who GOP is and commit to voting them all out of power ... or keep thinking this kind of lunacy is somehow admirable / insisting Dems are "losers" or "complicit" if they can't magically stop the madness of the psychos America elected to run everything.

And if the answer to that is "the other path increases suffering, too," then there's no right path, and getting worked up about Democrats choosing the wrong one is addle-minded.

Well, 7 caved. Overwhelmingly, Dems did not.

When someone said the air traffic controllers should just go, I realized folks hadn't thought how bad that would be.

Thanks. I also believe that doing it for longer would inevitably affect Dems. I'm see too many left groups saying it's time to end it. The loudest voices are people who think this would win the whole game. It won't. It's just a salvo.

Ugh, goddess give me strength. You might just be too correct.

But those aren't all the olds?

So those are the people we need to get at.

See, now, people have been telling me Ossoff is a yes.