people have pointed it out but jandelaine is an escaped hunger games stylist as it is

i don't have a lot saved that aren't very common but i have some that i need to start using more

sometimes you even get the rare double whammy of seeing someone saying "he's a woman to me" about a character they also regularly write as a trans man

her name is bell (short for something i haven't decided on yet) greave, she's the youngest daughter of a middle class merchant family from thanalan who flees an arranged marriage to become an adventurer, stumbling first into the arms of a mysterious bard and then into becoming the warrior of light 👍

*despite the fact that he's shown first meeting them together they're arguing with each other two in the blowup so it seems like he hooked up with them both and then led them on separately, class act that he is

the blonde hyur and elezen are adventurers he's flirting with in the ul'dah starting quest flashbacks*, the other hyur is the young daughter of a merchant contact who th/ancred is using to get supplies for the scions from her father, there's nothing really about the miqo'te

via the scene initially setting this up it doesn't seem like they were coming TO chew him out, it seems like they didn't know about each other until they got there (except the last woman who only suspected he was cheating because he sent lyse to meet her about something)

YESSSSSSSSSSSS

THANK YOU i'm so fascinated by these nameless women

oh the elezen also has an in-game dialog name she's "Mirthful Maiden"

the first one is technically w/olcred because she's the one i made an alt out of

the four women from the ARR blowup!

yup, riiiight at the end of shb patches for fourche

THERE IS REALLY NO SHORTAGE OF THINGS TO ACTUALLY POINT TO HERE AND YET... i guess xiv has a disproportionately high amount of people not actually reading the text and getting all their opinions from "lore recaps" and common fanon opinions and the little they're forced to perceive in duties

something i always find funny with both z and similar characters is that often there like... really obviously specific things that one could point to for why they hate or are angry at the character but the people being loudest in discourse tend to not actually bring any of them up compared to Vibes