Thanks so much for sharing, Ray!

...but we did also say that this is why they cried when Carol was breaking out Zosia, so to speak: it's like breaking up the most perfect, everlasting group hug

I was thinking this as I said this, too, we just didn't have enough time (or desire?) to go further into it. We're kind funny that way. Hahahaha ...if you saw the whole episode, I was immediately shut down by my fellow hosts 😅

...whenever we look at a given scene, there's a lot of "two things can be true" to it: there's what this means for the characters, what it means for the greater story from the audience's perspective, and then there's our gut reaction. This is the latter. We are basically feeling how Carol must feel.

I think that's a very well considered point! It should obviously go without saying that we go way deeper into this in the full discussion (I believe Rachael, who also was hosting this one, actually sort of gives somewhat your answer, too!).