Says they're not a bully.

Keeps bullying.

It's nice when the mask is off huh? Feel like a big man yet? Can't take a joke either, what a shame. Got nothing on me, so yiu can only kick up dirt? I'm not even a lewdtuber.

While you can still save face, pick your pants off the floor and shoo, Hun. 🩷

No~! No bully~! 🫠

Cuz I don't like bullies~ 🙂

Whether she keeps it or not really doesn't matter to me, I don't care. I don't watch her content.

She gave people what they wanted, an apology. The rest is up to how she proceeds in the future.

Saying I'm defending her choice is putting words in my mouth.

Have a good day.

I said "people", not you specifically. Nice job outting yourself.

It is exactly moving goal posts. People wanted her to apologize, she did. Now ppl are saying its not genuine or enough, so she should throw out her model to "prove" she's sorry. OG goal was "I'm sorry", not "Bye Model", so it moved.

Grippers, and nips no less.

Bold of you.

[Also "wont you think of the poor oshi's thousand dollar fascist model" is a really weird stance to take.]

Yep. Good thing I never said that. 😉

Twisting words & taking things in egregious bad faith also aint a good look. It's why no one takes us seriously & why actual Nazis slip past. Pero aya tu

We can't expect everyone to know the dog whistles & deeper context of things & jumping down their throats & labeling them the enemy is not how we encourage people to educate themselves, let alone take accountability.

Call her out, yes. Educate her, yes. Stone her on the online public square, no.

So, people wanted her to apologize, then people wanted a public statement, now people want her to throw out the model, that cost her likely thousands of dollars?

And then what? For what exactly? So people can just move the goal post & say she should quit streaming? Why is nothing ever good enough?

Labeling her the enemy when it seems like a case of ignorance is not how we get people on our side and to understand dog whistles.

This sort of public flogging is what pushes future allies away and discourages conversation.

The ones who took things in bad faith despite Zen having no prior offenses afaik? Despite her giving reason for her heated lapse of judgement & taking accountability now?

How do we expect people to educate themselves when they are flogged for not knowing to begin with?

We can't expect everyone to know the dog whistles & deeper context of things & jumping down their throats & labeling them the enemy is not how we encourage people to educate themselves, let alone take accountability.

Call her out, yes. Educate her, yes. Stone her on the online public square, no.

That's your prerogative I guess. She cites being heated, which means she wasn't thinking clearly, after she was being slandered & her artist harassed

She says shes not political, this means she might not be educated in the deeper context behind the words she used, but she apologized for their use.

She also showed her inspiration refs & they were demon generals

If it is, then this will happen again and can be looked at critically from there. As far as I know, this is her first "offense" and she apologized/gave context. I don't watch Zentreya, so that's on whoever wants to keep tabs on her.

I'm not excusing the words she used. Merely pointing out there is an update to the current event & Zen has apologized. Outside of this instance, I don't know of any past issues shes been in.

Either way, if no prior offense, I prefer to lean to giving chances for growth and how she proceeds further

The original post didn't contain full context and claims were made entirely in bad faith. Even if it was for a good cause like calling out problematic rhetoric, but now that a more proper statement has been made by Zentreya, I feel it best to look at things with fresher eyes and calmer emotions.

Thank you, hope you have a good day. Fuck Nazis!

Please make an update to your statement and issue an apology to Zentreya if you take the time to consider her words.

I don't watch Zen, but she just apologized by the way. So consider the update, unless this was just kicking up a fuss for clout. Here, I even got the entire stream and the specific time stamp for you

www.twitch.tv/videos/26310...