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Steve Kasner (he/him)
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Portland, Oregon-based radical activist, writer, and care worker into critical theory & organizing for change — preferably nonviolent change, toward a radically democratic & sustainable future. NVDA/NVCR trainer & educator.
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A lesson learned too late:

All of us sometimes lack empathy toward others — even toward those we love most.

At these times, seeing oneself as a “good person” may prevent one from seeing the cruelty of one’s choices when empathy is lacking for any reason (hurt feelings, sleeplessness, meds, etc.)
steve-kasner.bsky.social
A lesson learned too late:

All of us sometimes lack empathy toward others — even toward those we love most.

At these times, seeing oneself as a “good person” may prevent one from seeing the cruelty of one’s choices when empathy is lacking for any reason (hurt feelings, sleeplessness, meds, etc.)
November 30, 2025 at 4:57 AM
steve-kasner.bsky.social
In announcing his intent to pardon of the former president of Honduras who was convicted of trafficking drugs into the US — Trump proves that he doesn't care about drug trafficking or govt corruption

What does he care about? He cares about Venezuela's oil

GIFT LINK:
www.nytimes.com/2025/11/29/u...
This is a screenshot of one paragraph from a New York Times article by Tyler pager published on November 29th 2025. The first thing a person sees when looking at this image is two lines from the paragraph which have been circled in red by me, Steve Kasner, the blue sky guy behind this post. The words circled in red read as follows: In private, the president has shown an interest in Venezuela's oil reserves The entire paragraph shown in the screenshot reads as follows: The Trump administration has struggled to provide a clear strategic rationale for why it has amassed such a large military presence in the Caribbean. The president has most often pointed to counternarcotics operations, but the size of the U.S. forces in the region suggests bigger ambitions. In private, the president has shown an interest in Venezuela’s oil reserves, while he and his aides also have said they want to oust Mr. Maduro. If you would like to hear the entire article, it is read by an AI voice on the New York Times web page. I provided a gift link above so you can access this. Once again here is that link. (I cannot provide a link directly to the audio, unfortunately. So I presume the New York Times makes it easy for screen readers to access the audio link. If not, please send me a direct message. I work in disability services. Anyway here again is the gift link for the web page containing the article and access to the audio reading of the article: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/29/us/politics/trump-honduras-venezuela.html?unlocked_article_code=1.5E8.VdWo.hPeWywermFeP&smid=url-share
November 30, 2025 at 4:20 AM
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After the current ‘ceasefire’ in Gaza began on 10/10, 3 Israeli soldiers were killed in Gaza (all 3 in the first 20 days)

After agreeing to cease fire on 10/10, Israeli forces have killed 339 Palestinians in Gaza. Just yesterday, airstrikes killed 24 & wounded 87

www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11...
Israeli forces kill 24 Palestinians in Gaza; Hamas urges US to intervene
Israeli attacks target Palestinians in their cars, shelters and homes in latest violation of the US-brokered truce.
www.aljazeera.com
November 24, 2025 at 12:46 AM
steve-kasner.bsky.social
Schumer should be replaced after leading this pointless shutdown fight (initiated several months too late) then tacitly approving their capitulation

It's also time for the Democratic Party to get creative: organizing mutual aid, direct action, and education events locally, with party funds & staff
Image is a screenshot from a news analysis by Luke Broadwater (NYT Nov. 10, 2025) at https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/10/us/politics/trump-government-shutdown.html The text in the screenshot appears below: Some House Democrats, dissatisfied that Mr. Schumer couldn’t better control his caucus and hold the line on Democratic demands, called for him to be replaced. “Senator Schumer is no longer effective and should be replaced,” Representative Ro Khanna, Democrat of California, said in a post on X. “If you can’t lead the fight to stop healthcare premiums from skyrocketing for Americans, what will you fight for?” Some House Democrats, dissatisfied that Mr. Schumer couldn’t better control his caucus and hold the line on Democratic demands, called for him to be replaced. “Senator Schumer is no longer effective and should be replaced,” Representative Ro Khanna, Democrat of California, said in a post on X. “If you can’t lead the fight to stop healthcare premiums from skyrocketing for Americans, what will you fight for?”
November 11, 2025 at 7:57 AM
steve-kasner.bsky.social
$41 million-dollar book?! Did AI (or AIs) produce this bizzare Google search result?

It was the 9th result returned by Google for this query: The unseen Verso second edition

(I'm in the Verso book club, so I'll just buy it there. For $10/mo, all new ebooks are free, all other books are 50% off!)
[The following is all the text shown in a screenshot from a Google search results web page. This was the 9th result at the bottom of the web page. There is also a small image to the right of the book description showing a book cover. But the image shows the cover of Enshitification by Corey Doctorow, which is a recently published and widely acclaimed and widely discussed nonfiction book about the internet becoming worse and worse, with more and more junk and inaccuracy. I've not read the book, but I heard an interview with the author on On The Media. So my description of Cory Doctorow's book is probably an incomplete oversimplification. (Just doing my part in the process he describes ;-) Anyway, here's the text of the search result, another example of enshitification:] Buy books online. Support local bookstores. https://bookshop.org The Unseen - Nanni Balestrini In spare but vivid prose, The Unseen follows Autonomy's trajectory through the eyes of a single working-class protagonist--from high-school ... $41,755,256.00 · 3-day delivery · 30-day returns Missing: second ‎| Show results with: second Nearby stores
November 7, 2025 at 1:26 AM
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I've not been in the mood for comedy for 5 months — ever since the most important and most admirable person in my life unexpectedly died. And it's a death that I could have easily prevented. Nevertheless, I'm going to watch this movie…
GIFT LINK:
www.nytimes.com/2025/10/29/m...
‘Coexistence, My Ass!’ Review: Facing Conflict With Comedy
www.nytimes.com
October 30, 2025 at 1:50 PM
steve-kasner.bsky.social
Trump confused nuclear-capable missile launch tests w/ weapons tests. The US test-launched an ICBM last month. It's been decades since China, Russia, or the US, exploded a nuclear device. (Thanks partly protest movements, computer modeling is used instead)
GIFT LINK:
www.nytimes.com/2025/10/29/u...
Trump Threatens to Resume Nuclear Weapons Testing, Minutes Before Xi Meeting
www.nytimes.com
October 30, 2025 at 12:24 PM
steve-kasner.bsky.social
Millions of kilometers of thin plastic fiber optic cable litter Ukraine. There's enough to reach the Moon and back several times. (Russian drones have cables attached like kite strings to avoid signal jamming)

NPR-ATC 8/7/25 4min segment by Larson, Aslam, and Summers:
www.npr.org/2025/08/07/n...
Photograph is of part of a transcribed interview which aired on NPR all things considered on August 7th 2025. JUANA SUMMERS, HOST: The fighting in Ukraine is now dominated by drones. They've had a devastating effect on human life. A U.N. report earlier this year said that short-range drones are the deadliest threat to civilians in Ukraine, but experts are now also sounding the alarm over the long-term effects of drone debris, saying it could pose serious harms to both wildlife and people. In particular, researchers are focused on a type of drone that is tethered to the ground with a fiber-optic cable. The thin cable looks like a fishing line and unspools as the drone flies away. And once the drone crashes or explodes, the cable remains, and it's littered all over the Ukrainian front lines. Here to talk more about this is Doug Weir, director of the Conflict and Environment Observatory in the U.K. Welcome to ALL THINGS CONSIDERED. DOUG WEIR: Hi. Thanks for having me on. SUMMERS: Thanks for being here. So Doug, if you could, just start by telling us, according to your estimates, how much of this cable is out there? WEIR: It's very difficult to say. Some of the data on how many drones are being produced is not entirely clear, but we think that Russia's producing around 50,000 of these drones every month, which assumes that around 50,000 of these drones are being used and destroyed. We also think that this year, Russia will need about 6 million kilometers of fiber. So for reference, that's around seven times to the Earth and the moon and back. SUMMERS: Wow. WEIR: So we think it is a huge amount. We've tried to do some calculations, and that suggests that for every kilometer of the front line, we think there might be around 2,900 kilometers of this plastic cable. For the full transcript visit this link: https://www.npr.org/2025/08/07/nx-s1-5493263/fiber-optic-drones-are-leaving-miles-of-plastic-trash-along-ukraines-front-lines
September 25, 2025 at 3:33 AM
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Zelensky warns of a drones arms race. Like it or not, this war will end with a negotiated agreement. Hopefully, the agreement will include a section on drones that goes beyond airspace concerns. For example, drones with fiber optic cables could be banned.

Santora & Nechepurenko, NYT 24 Sept 2025:
The Ukrainian leader came to the dystopian picture of a world a wash in deadly drones, one that he said could eventually carry nuclear warheads. Ukraine has become a world leader in developing inexpensive drones and testing its innovations In real time on the battlefield. Russia is also deploying drones in antichrome systems, as well as electronic warfare, in its military offensive against Ukraine. The future, Mr zelenski said, will be even more dangerous as artificial intelligence is integrated into drones The regulation of that technology is as urgent as stopping spread of nuclear weapons, he said. The above excerpt is from an article in the New York Times on September 24 2025
September 25, 2025 at 3:05 AM
steve-kasner.bsky.social
WTF?! Supreme Court — in a decree without explanation —approves deportation of 8 to South Sudan. “Before coming to the United States, the men hailed from Vietnam, Mexico, Laos, Cuba and Myanmar. Just one is from South Sudan”
GIFT:
www.nytimes.com/2025/07/03/u...
Supreme Court Lets Trump Deport Eight Migrants to South Sudan
www.nytimes.com
July 5, 2025 at 4:15 AM
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"If you believe that what a satirical band who play characters on stage do is more outrageous than the murdering of innocent Palestinians, then you need to give your head a fucking wobble.”

We did a wee feature interview ahead of Glastonbury with the Guardian...

www.theguardian.com/music/2025/j...
‘We just want to stop people being murdered’: Kneecap on Palestine, protest and provocation
The Irish rap trio have recently faced censure and a court case, but have also had support for their pro-Palestine stance. Ahead of a Glastonbury appearance deemed ‘inappropriate’ by Keir Starmer, the...
www.theguardian.com
June 27, 2025 at 7:50 AM
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aljazeera.com
BREAKING: At least 13 Palestinian aid seekers were killed by an Israeli air attack in Gaza's Khan Younis, sources at Nasser Medical Complex told Al Jazeera.

🔴 LIVE updates: aje.io/2s5r30
June 30, 2025 at 9:29 AM
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aljazeera.com
Video shows an Israeli drone killing a Palestinian carrying flour in Gaza City. The UN says food sites operated by the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, where 600 were killed, are 'an abomination' and 'a death trap.'
June 30, 2025 at 2:17 PM
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dropsitenews.com
🚨NEW from @dropsitenews.com: Israel Slaughters Dozens in Attack on Popular Gaza Cafe as Trump Claims a Ceasefire Deal is Moving Forward

✍️ Story by Abdel Qader Sabbah, Sharif Kouddous and @jeremyscahill.com

www.dropsitenews.com/p/israel-bom...
Israel Slaughters Dozens in Attack on Popular Gaza Cafe as Trump Claims a Ceasefire Deal is Moving Forward
Israel is intensifying its mass-killing operations in Gaza as Netanyahu plans White House visit. Hamas says no real progress on a deal
www.dropsitenews.com
June 30, 2025 at 7:01 PM
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GAZA GENOCIDE CONTINUES as world looks elsewhere, after Israel attacks yet another country — this time Iran.

‘Gazans are worried that Israel-Iran conflict will shift the world’s attention from their plight’ by Adam Rasgon NYT 6/14
www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06...
Screenshot of text from nyt article linked above. Below are the paragraphs included in the screenshot plus a few more: While Israeli military planes bombed Iranian nuclear sites and Iran fired barrages of ballistic missiles at Israeli cities over the past two days, Palestinians in Gaza were struggling to find food, connect to the internet and avoid strikes. “Everyone is speaking about Iran now,” said Khalil al-Halabi, a 71-year-old retired U.N. official living in a partially destroyed home in Gaza City. “Gaza has become a secondary matter.” Aid distribution sites in Gaza have been shuttered since Friday morning, which was shortly after the initial Israeli attacks on Iran began. Finding flour, Mr. al-Halabi said, had become a nightmare for his family, with some street vendors selling a 55-pound sack for more than $350 dollars. More concerning, he said, was that the Israel-Iran conflict could undermine desperately needed efforts to hammer out a cease-fire in Gaza. Repeated efforts to clinch a deal between Israel and Hamas have failed in recent months, with Israel saying it would end the war only after dismantling Hamas, and Hamas saying it will not surrender. Sharif al-Buheisi, 56, a resident of Deir al-Balah, in central Gaza, said he thought the war would continue regardless of the fight between Israel and Iran. “Israel and Hamas are in agreement about the continuation of the war,” he said. “They both benefit in their own way.” Still, Mr. al-Buheisi, who was a university administrator before the war, said that any diminished focus on Gaza would have negative consequences for Palestinians. He argued that Israel would now be able to make contentious moves “without a real response from the international community.” In particular, he said, he worried that the international community would not put enough pressure on Israel to fix the new system for delivering aid to Palestinians, which has had a chaotic, and often deadly, roll out. Photo from Getty images. It portrays in elderly relatively short man with a sign in front of him that he is holding. The sign reads: THIS HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR SAYS: STOP THE GENOCIDE IN GAZA The photo shows one person on each side of him, each with a hand on his back or shoulder, leaning in for the photo, clearly displaying support in solidarity with the Holocaust survivor who is standing against the genocide in Gaza. The image also includes the full details provided by Getty images about the photo. Unfortunately there is a woman to the left of him in the photo who goes unnamed and unmentioned in the caption by Getty images. She has long black hair and brown skin, and given her appearance in the context, it is likely she is Palestinian. The photo was shot at a large London demonstration in 2024 against the genocide in Gaza. Here is the image info provided by Getty images: Holocaust survivor Stephen Kapos (c) is pictured with Dr Ismail Patel (r), founder and chair of Friends of Al-Aqsa, during the National Demonstration for Palestine rally in Hyde Park to call for a permanent ceasefire in Gaza on 27th April 2024 in London, United Kingdom. The event was organised by Palestine Solidarity Campaign, Stop the War Coalition, Friends of Al-Aqsa, Muslim Association of Britain, Palestinian Forum in Britain and CND. (photo by Mark Kerrison/In Pictures via Getty Images)
June 14, 2025 at 8:48 PM
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ikeyouguys.bsky.social
that's little rock, arkansas showing the hell up #nokings
June 14, 2025 at 3:27 PM
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myvoicemychoice.bsky.social
Tanks, fighter jets, and 6,000 troops.
All this… for one man’s birthday.
Meanwhile, the rest of us are out here building a world where power isn’t something you hoard, but share. 🎂🪖 #NoKings
June 14, 2025 at 6:52 AM
steve-kasner.bsky.social
MN repealed state Medicaid coverage for undocumented immigrants, to avoid govt shutdown by GOP.

The right-wing populist & fascist tide is fueled by the precarity experienced by millions of working-class & middle-class voters. Precarity breeds resentment.

We need *Medicaid* (not Medicare) for all.
This is a screenshot from a Minnesota Facebook thread. It shows one comment and one reply, within a larger thread focusing on the contentious legislative vote in Minnesota to repeal Medicaid coverage for undocumented immigrants (or face a government shutdown, and an extended summer session until the GOP gets what it wants.) The comment within this thread at the top of the screenshot is from Meghan Grimm Lorenzen: “I pay 1500 for a family of 4 and have a large deductible on each of us. I support this BIG time.” Indented below that comment is a reply by Josanne Wiorek: “[To] Meghan Grimm Lorenzen: And now your medical bills will go up and you'll pay more. We all will. When uninsured people have to go to the ER, the hospital makes up for their loss by charging paying customers more. You support paying MORE.” This is a screenshot from the abstract, or summary, of an academic article about the psychology and politics of ressentiment. (FYI: this term was popularized by Nietzsche. It can be defined as resentment in a political or social context.) The entire article is open access, so anyone can read it; there is no paywall. The full article citation and URL appears below, and then the screenshot text will follow. (Please note that there is a button to listen to the full article on the web page.) Capelos, Tereza, and Nicolas Demertzis. 2022. “Sour Grapes: Ressentiment as the Affective Response of Grievance Politics.” Innovation: The European Journal of Social Science Research 35 (1): 107–29. doi:10.1080/13511610.2021.20230 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13511610.2021.2023005#d1e195 The beginning of this article features the abstract, or summary. The first part of that abstract is what appears in the screenshot. Here is the text from the screenshot: Abstract: This article examines the psychological orientations and political preferences of citizens ‘in ressentiment’, a particular psychological state that is a characteristic feature of contemporary grievance politics. Similarly to the Fox in Aesop’s ‘Fable of the sour grapes’, in ressentiment the value of an impotent self and a desirable but unattainable object change to a morally superior self and an unwanted object, while maintaining an aura of victimhood [Demertzis, 2020. The Political Sociology of Emotions. Essays on Trauma and Ressentiment. London: Routledge; Salmela and Capelos, 2021. “Ressentiment: A Complex Emotion or an Emotional Mechanism of Psychic Defences?” Politics and Governance 9 (3): 191–203].
June 14, 2025 at 7:56 PM
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gxldsociety.bsky.social
BREAKING: Federal agents in plain clothes and unmarked cars tried to snatch 1st graders from LA elementary schools—told staff they had “parental consent.”

They lied. When pressed, they HID THEIR IDS. DHS admits they sent them. This wasn’t a welfare check. It was a test run for a police state.
June 10, 2025 at 12:17 AM
steve-kasner.bsky.social
Wow! These folks really know how to burn cars.

Obviously, this calls for 4,000 National Guard troops & 700 Marines.*

*sarcasm alert. GIFT LINK:
www.nytimes.com/2025/06/09/u...
Screenshot of part of a June 9 New York Times article. I primarily took the screenshot for the photo. But the text above the photo reads “The Trump administration is test-driving a novel legal theory that you can circumvent the restrictions on domestic law enforcement by the American military,” said Kori Schake, who is an expert on defense policy at the American Enterprise Institute and the author of a forthcoming history of civil-military relations. She added that the administration appeared to be “blurring the line” between Title 10 federalization of the National Guard and the use of active-duty American milliary forces domestically, calling it “a dangerous undertaking.” Then the photo appears, which I will describe in a moment. But first here is the photo caption and byline that appears right below the photo in somewhat fine print: Burned cars in downtown Los Angeles on Monday after protests against Immigration and Customs Enforcement.Credit...Alex Welsh for The New York Times All right, I'm not great at describing photos, but this is a daytime photo of a street filled with oncoming cars. We can only see one lane of moving cars. And they are coming towards the photographer, but the photographer is standing in the parking area beside that lane. The photographer is standing where cars parallel park. But what we see instead of 2 parked cars are 2 piles of gray metal, which apparently is the only thing that could not burn in the fires that destroyed these cars. In the pile closest to the photographer, one can make out the wheels and maybe the axle and a whole bunch of other gray & blackened metal. In the car behind this one, one sees what appears to be the frame of a rooftop. It was probably an SUV. Below that rectangular structure of bars is a similar pile of metal like the one I just described. There is no color left, no doors left, no glass left, no seats left, perhaps not even a steering wheel left. These were extremely hot fires.
June 10, 2025 at 6:01 AM
steve-kasner.bsky.social
Trump orders National Guard to quell anti-ICE protests in County, without Gov Newsom’s consent.

If troops are sent against the governor's will, it will be the first time since 1965 — when LBJ was protecting Black CRM protesters against white supremacists.

GIFT LINK
www.nytimes.com/2025/06/07/u...
Trump Is Calling Up National Guard Troops Under a Rarely Used Law
www.nytimes.com
June 8, 2025 at 7:29 AM
steve-kasner.bsky.social
FYI — These are the countries affected by Trump's travel ban, issued via executive order on June 4.

The screenshot below comes from Allison McCann’s 6/4 NYT article, “See the Countries Under Trump’s New Travel Ban”

(Click ALT to read most of the article text.)

www.nytimes.com/interactive/...
Screenshot of text listing countries affected. Here is that list and more: President Trump has targeted the citizens of a dozen countries as part of a new ban on travel to the United States and restricted travel from several more. The restrictions touch more parts of the world and will most likely affect more people than similar travel bans that were introduced during the first Trump administration. All travelers who are citizens of countries in the first tier will be barred entry, while those countries in the second tier face the suspension of certain visas. All travel banned Afghanistan Chad Republic of Congo Equatorial Guinea Eritrea Haiti Iran Libya Myanmar Somalia Sudan Yemen Visas restricted Burundi Cuba Laos Sierra Leone Togo Turkmenistan Venezuela Shortly after he first took office in 2017, Mr. Trump tried to bar travelers from seven mostly Muslim-majority countries. Five of those countries are on the new list, plus several more countries across Africa, Asia and the Middle East, as well as Cuba, Haiti and Venezuela. What happened under the previous travel bans? The introduction of the 2017 travel ban led to immediate chaos and confusion as hundreds of travelers were detained at airports across the country and more than 60,000 visas were provisionally revoked. Federal judges blocked the ban within a week. Overall, travel from the countries banned in 2017 was relatively low to begin with, though people from Iran and Syria had arrived in the thousands each month. A back-and-forth in the courts throughout 2017 delayed implementation, and then the Covid pandemic hit, halting travel globally. But after President Joseph R. Biden Jr. lifted the bans in January 2021, travel from those countries — and from Chad, Libya and Yemen — more than rebounded. Mr. Trump ended up issuing a series of four travel bans in his first term, with each version modifying its predecessors in order to pass legal scrutiny. It took almost a year before any ban actually took effect.
June 5, 2025 at 4:34 AM
steve-kasner.bsky.social
2 GOP House reps, like MTG, say they didn't know of 2 controversial provisions in budget bill. GOP reps should stop ignoring their “Democrat” colleagues. (And at least ask their staff to read the bill.)

M Gold, “After Muscling Their Bill Through the House, Some Republicans Have Regrets” NYT 6/3-4:
Screenshot including following text (The text below also includes additional sentences that did not fit into the screenshot): Last week, Representative Mike Flood of Nebraska admitted during a town hall meeting in his district that he did not know that the bill would limit judges’ power to hold people in contempt for violating court orders. He would not have voted for the measure, he said, if he had realized. And as lawmakers returned to Washington on Tuesday after their weeklong break, Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia said that she had been unaware that the mega-bill she voted for would block states from regulating artificial intelligence for a decade. “Full transparency, I did not know about this section,” Ms. Greene posted on social media, calling it a violation of states’ rights and adding that she “would have voted NO if I had known this was in there.” The remorseful statements highlighted the realities of legislating in the modern age. Members of Congress, divided bitterly along partisan lines and often working against self-imposed political deadlines, have become accustomed to having their leaders throw together huge pieces of legislation at the very last moment — and often do not read the entirety of the bill they are voting on, if they read any of it at all. 2nd Screenshot from article. Text below includes what's in screenshot plus the final paragraphs in the article: Still, Democrats swiftly criticized Ms. Greene and Mr. Flood for failing to properly examine legislation that both of them had backed and at various points championed. “PRO TIP: It’s helpful to read stuff before voting on it,” Representative Ted Lieu of California said, responding to Ms. Greene’s post. And throughout the debate on the bill, Democrats repeatedly voiced their objections to the language that would bar states from setting their own regulations on artificial intelligence. “I even brought this provision up during the debate,” Representative Brendan Boyle, a Pennsylvania Democrat, wrote on social media. “I welcome those on the other side to join me in opposition to it.” The language that Mr. Flood said he opposed, which could shield Mr. Trump and members of his administration from being held in contempt for disobeying court orders, was part of a larger push by Republicans to address injunctions that have blocked the president’s executive actions. The measure was advanced out of committee three weeks before the policy bill passed the House. Still, at a town hall last week, Mr. Flood told constituents in Nebraska that it was “unknown to me when I voted for the bill.” Met with boos from the crowd, he added: “I am not going to hide the truth.”
June 4, 2025 at 10:32 PM