Tristan Hoare
tdk001.bsky.social
Tristan Hoare
@tdk001.bsky.social
I was going to ask if there was, in fact, any recorded previous usage of "Dontoe Doctrine". I guess there was...
January 4, 2026 at 3:34 AM
What happened in 2013?
November 13, 2025 at 2:54 AM
Politics is an exercise in forced equilibrium though. Especially that last hypothetical. I almost find it more likely that the new party won't make it even as far as the '26 elections, let alone '28. Maybe the split on the center will just be party migration and dilution of the GOP with former Dems.
July 17, 2025 at 8:16 PM
If that happens, they could easily destroy the conservative end of the spectrum at the ballot box in '26. And, if that happens, and Musk's money somehow lasts him until '28 (personally, I doubt this is likely), that might make enough room for the Democratic party to split, causing a repeat of 1860.
July 17, 2025 at 8:16 PM
Sum that all up with his notorious "talent" for over-promising and under-delivering, and it becomes easy to predict that this "America Party" will go nowhere.

Not that it won't accomplish anything. There's enough dissatisfaction within the GOP that the two ego-singularities could split the vote.
July 17, 2025 at 8:16 PM
Keep in mind: Participating in a Twitter poll these days requires a subscription to the service. So, that's 2/3 of people who have actively chosen to pay Musk for the pleasure of... something? I never figured out what.

That result, despite the selection bias and Musk pushing the idea, is abysmal.
July 17, 2025 at 8:16 PM
3) Get Elon Musk out of politics

While I'm sure Musk, himself, could get behind the first two, that third one is a doozy.

It really says something when he polled Twitter about creating a new political party and he got somewhere north of 66% saying "Yes".
July 17, 2025 at 8:16 PM
Pollsters do try to find such agreement points, and there indeed are a small handful of views out there today that are polling with around 80% agreement. But they're not enough to make a political party around. Namely:

1) Release the Epstein list
2) Immigration is good for the country

And, well...
July 17, 2025 at 8:16 PM
Back to my thesis though: Musk also claims to want a party for the "80% in the middle" of the U.S. political spectrum.

I shouldn't need to say this, but, getting 8 out of 10 completely random people to agree on ANYTHING is nearly impossible. Let alone 80% of U.S.'s 330 million.
July 17, 2025 at 8:16 PM
(Can't fully blame them though. After all the negotiations back and forth, the Senate, the House, and the 3/5 debacle and the fact that they didn't have a working example in front of them to learn from, mistakes were naturally bound to happen)
July 17, 2025 at 8:16 PM
And, of course, you don't need the history lesson (which Musk, understandably, never got in apartheid South Africa) to see that. All you need is the math. The entire thing seems to have been accidentally rigged up to force a two-party system by our founders who wanted NO parties.
July 17, 2025 at 8:16 PM
(On a side note here, it always strikes me as odd that the Republican party calls itself the GOP (Grand Old Party) when, as you can see here, they are actually YOUNGER than the Democratic party)
July 17, 2025 at 8:16 PM
The last time a 3rd party rose above all of that and actually managed to break, and subsequently replace, an existing major party in the U.S. was in 1860. 165 years ago, when the Republican party replaced the Whig party. (Also helped along by the fact that there where 4 parties that cycle)
July 17, 2025 at 8:16 PM
It is an incredibly rare for anything to even MAYBE change as in 2000 when the Nader drained a small amount of support away from Gore. That election was close enough that it may have changed the outcome. Effectively causing the OPPOSITE of the 3rd party's desired outcome.
July 17, 2025 at 8:16 PM
The rare case where 3rd parties rise above that, they usually only manage to draw votes away from a major party, but not enough to change anything, as in 1992 when Perot put just enough drag on Bush to flip a few Electors to Clinton, but Clinton would have won without them anyway.
July 17, 2025 at 8:16 PM
Obviously, the first point here is the absolutely stupid first-among-losers approach to most elections in the U.S., including ALL elections at the national level. The simple fact that this, and the Electoral College are baked in to the Constitution basically curses any 3rd-party to obscurity.
July 17, 2025 at 8:16 PM
If I were to set this up in a blog (not on a social media site) who would be interested in following along?

I promise no regularity on posting, nor any kind of consistent narrative. Honestly, I don't even promise that I'll DO it. But, I'll try.

React, or comment if you are interested.
June 10, 2025 at 3:36 AM