ThatBoyOverYonder
@thatboyoveryonder.bsky.social
Worker, ally, son of a truck driver, socialist, white boy, one of those Midwestern Civil War and WWII history enjoyers who became a labor history enjoyer after reading Howard Zinn when he was like 23.
Says the lying fool regurgitating the party line of the CIA. You’re a hypocrite without honor, and unworthy of respect or human sympathy.
December 5, 2025 at 6:41 AM
Says the lying fool regurgitating the party line of the CIA. You’re a hypocrite without honor, and unworthy of respect or human sympathy.
Nope. NOTHING you’ve claim is supported with evidence or is consistent with the historical record. You’re either a liar, an ignorant fool, or a sock puppet of the CIA. I’m very comfortable disregarding anything you have to say and forgetting I’ve ever had the misfortune of reading your pack of shit.
December 5, 2025 at 4:00 AM
Nope. NOTHING you’ve claim is supported with evidence or is consistent with the historical record. You’re either a liar, an ignorant fool, or a sock puppet of the CIA. I’m very comfortable disregarding anything you have to say and forgetting I’ve ever had the misfortune of reading your pack of shit.
FDR is among the handful of presidents worthy of human sympathy, and maybe had Wallace succeeded him instead of Truman things would have worked out differently, but it was working within the edifice that Reconstruction built that was the failure.
December 4, 2025 at 6:18 PM
FDR is among the handful of presidents worthy of human sympathy, and maybe had Wallace succeeded him instead of Truman things would have worked out differently, but it was working within the edifice that Reconstruction built that was the failure.
I’d argue the final failure, after the failure of Reconstruction, came in the period between WWI and the New Deal, with the working class movement that developed and emerged in that period opting to work within the Democratic Party rather than working outside of and orthogonally against both parties
December 4, 2025 at 6:17 PM
I’d argue the final failure, after the failure of Reconstruction, came in the period between WWI and the New Deal, with the working class movement that developed and emerged in that period opting to work within the Democratic Party rather than working outside of and orthogonally against both parties
Idk if I’d consider it a “mistake”, that’s more a categorical argument that I’m not much concerned with. The reality remains that whatever progressive promise contained within the Constitution has been lost, and the institutions erected in its name are now incapable of self reform.
December 4, 2025 at 5:56 PM
Idk if I’d consider it a “mistake”, that’s more a categorical argument that I’m not much concerned with. The reality remains that whatever progressive promise contained within the Constitution has been lost, and the institutions erected in its name are now incapable of self reform.
“Freedom” in the US is not an entitlement that is due to all, it is something that is purchaser on the market. Whether one succeeds or fails, it is everywhere a personal failure or deficiency, not a systemic and institutional deficiency. Labeling china “worse” by some measure doesn’t change that.
December 4, 2025 at 5:45 PM
“Freedom” in the US is not an entitlement that is due to all, it is something that is purchaser on the market. Whether one succeeds or fails, it is everywhere a personal failure or deficiency, not a systemic and institutional deficiency. Labeling china “worse” by some measure doesn’t change that.
I don’t know what you mean by “freedom”. Regardless, I do know that I do not enjoy an “American” Liberty as promised by the Constitution, I am subject to a “Roman” Liberty that affords privileges to private property that is entitled to my labor, my body, and my time.
December 4, 2025 at 5:44 PM
I don’t know what you mean by “freedom”. Regardless, I do know that I do not enjoy an “American” Liberty as promised by the Constitution, I am subject to a “Roman” Liberty that affords privileges to private property that is entitled to my labor, my body, and my time.
The same/similar applies to the US, during the Civil War which necessitated building state capacity to beat the slaver traitors, and then later in WWI and WWII to defeat the fascist scourge. As a result we are a degenerated republic, and have become a corporate oligopoly.
December 4, 2025 at 5:11 PM
The same/similar applies to the US, during the Civil War which necessitated building state capacity to beat the slaver traitors, and then later in WWI and WWII to defeat the fascist scourge. As a result we are a degenerated republic, and have become a corporate oligopoly.
We are not citizens, we are subjects of capital. Our social roles, those who have to work for a living rather than living of rents and assets, is to transfer wealth from our bosses to our landlords and private banks.
December 4, 2025 at 5:08 PM
We are not citizens, we are subjects of capital. Our social roles, those who have to work for a living rather than living of rents and assets, is to transfer wealth from our bosses to our landlords and private banks.
The 14th Amendment was used to enshrine corporate personhood laws and Citizens United enshrined money as speech, making the true constituents of this country the wealthiest corporations.
December 4, 2025 at 5:07 PM
The 14th Amendment was used to enshrine corporate personhood laws and Citizens United enshrined money as speech, making the true constituents of this country the wealthiest corporations.
You’re the one not paying attention. You could at least be honest, rather than obscuring your chauvinism and jingoism behind nice sounding anti-imperialist language. You’re full of shit.
December 4, 2025 at 5:03 PM
You’re the one not paying attention. You could at least be honest, rather than obscuring your chauvinism and jingoism behind nice sounding anti-imperialist language. You’re full of shit.
So what? They’re doing capitalism better than the US so that makes them some kind of threat to me? I’m supposed to be more worried about China than I am my own government? The global hegemon that traffics in drugs and people to fund clandestine operations and wages war in far off countries for oil?
December 4, 2025 at 5:02 PM
So what? They’re doing capitalism better than the US so that makes them some kind of threat to me? I’m supposed to be more worried about China than I am my own government? The global hegemon that traffics in drugs and people to fund clandestine operations and wages war in far off countries for oil?
Or, rather, more historically sound, the USSR was devastated by WWI, were encircled, invaded, and infiltrated with spies and saboteurs after the revolution, while simultaneously fighting a brutal civil war against a proto-fascist regime. That experience required erecting instruments of state power.
December 4, 2025 at 4:55 PM
Or, rather, more historically sound, the USSR was devastated by WWI, were encircled, invaded, and infiltrated with spies and saboteurs after the revolution, while simultaneously fighting a brutal civil war against a proto-fascist regime. That experience required erecting instruments of state power.
We have over 800 military bases all around the globe and are consistently polled as the greatest threat to world peace, they have two and those are located in strategic regional points. You’re using the language of anti-imperialism to justify and rationalize American imperialism.
December 4, 2025 at 4:53 PM
We have over 800 military bases all around the globe and are consistently polled as the greatest threat to world peace, they have two and those are located in strategic regional points. You’re using the language of anti-imperialism to justify and rationalize American imperialism.
China has been an empire, but they have historically been content with being a regional hegemon, not a global one. They do not typically wage wars much beyond their borders. And if it’s ok that the US commands the Gulf of Mexico, then China controlling the SCS should be a non-issue. Be consistent.
December 4, 2025 at 4:23 PM
China has been an empire, but they have historically been content with being a regional hegemon, not a global one. They do not typically wage wars much beyond their borders. And if it’s ok that the US commands the Gulf of Mexico, then China controlling the SCS should be a non-issue. Be consistent.
In my mind this reveals that aspects of racism, classism, misogyny, othering as it were, are at least in part a result of being treated as replaceable cogs in the machine of social production rather than as humans. Like a defense mechanism we retreat to tribalistic thinking to protect ourselves.
December 4, 2025 at 4:20 PM
In my mind this reveals that aspects of racism, classism, misogyny, othering as it were, are at least in part a result of being treated as replaceable cogs in the machine of social production rather than as humans. Like a defense mechanism we retreat to tribalistic thinking to protect ourselves.
This reminds me of a section from Marx’s “Comments on James Mill,
Éléments D’économie Politique”.
www.marxists.org/archive/marx...
Éléments D’économie Politique”.
www.marxists.org/archive/marx...
December 4, 2025 at 4:16 PM
This reminds me of a section from Marx’s “Comments on James Mill,
Éléments D’économie Politique”.
www.marxists.org/archive/marx...
Éléments D’économie Politique”.
www.marxists.org/archive/marx...
I agree. It’s my belief we need realize two things that would establish a material basis for resolving all other issues; universal collective bargaining rights, and the democratization of the finance industry. Every other issue is secondary, tertiary, or irrelevant in comparison.
December 4, 2025 at 4:03 PM
I agree. It’s my belief we need realize two things that would establish a material basis for resolving all other issues; universal collective bargaining rights, and the democratization of the finance industry. Every other issue is secondary, tertiary, or irrelevant in comparison.
It all went downhill when Johnson pardoned the slaver traitors and welcomed them back to power. We had potential in the moments after the Civil War and with Reconstruction, but that was squandered and the sacrifices of the Union Army and the freedmen was betrayed.
December 4, 2025 at 3:45 PM
It all went downhill when Johnson pardoned the slaver traitors and welcomed them back to power. We had potential in the moments after the Civil War and with Reconstruction, but that was squandered and the sacrifices of the Union Army and the freedmen was betrayed.
We haven’t been a “good” country since the minutes before Lincoln was assassinated. The moment Andrew Johnson pardoned the slaver traitors and welcomed them back to power we betrayed every promise in the Constitution. The New Deal was our shot to overcome that, then Truman dropped the bombs.
December 4, 2025 at 3:41 PM
We haven’t been a “good” country since the minutes before Lincoln was assassinated. The moment Andrew Johnson pardoned the slaver traitors and welcomed them back to power we betrayed every promise in the Constitution. The New Deal was our shot to overcome that, then Truman dropped the bombs.
I get it. But I don’t think there’s a single nation state on earth that is not “authoritarian”. Authoritarianism is the nature of the state, and is necessary so long as class division persists. Even after the revolution it will be necessary to suppress conservative counter-reactionary forces.
December 4, 2025 at 3:39 PM
I get it. But I don’t think there’s a single nation state on earth that is not “authoritarian”. Authoritarianism is the nature of the state, and is necessary so long as class division persists. Even after the revolution it will be necessary to suppress conservative counter-reactionary forces.
😂 “as dangerous”. Absurd.
December 4, 2025 at 3:35 PM
😂 “as dangerous”. Absurd.
I like that they self consciously and publicly develop and make plans and work to achieve specific goals, and typically accomplish them ahead of time. I like that their plans are broad based and involve collective national improvement, rather than “make line go up” for 1/10th of 1% of the pop.
December 4, 2025 at 3:30 PM
I like that they self consciously and publicly develop and make plans and work to achieve specific goals, and typically accomplish them ahead of time. I like that their plans are broad based and involve collective national improvement, rather than “make line go up” for 1/10th of 1% of the pop.
The Constitution is no longer viable, and the existing institutional edifice built upon it is no longer capable of self reform. Loyalty to that piece of paper is wasted effort and naive. Also, it was neither popularly drafted nor popularly ratified. It’s a shit document, and illegitimate.
December 4, 2025 at 3:25 PM
The Constitution is no longer viable, and the existing institutional edifice built upon it is no longer capable of self reform. Loyalty to that piece of paper is wasted effort and naive. Also, it was neither popularly drafted nor popularly ratified. It’s a shit document, and illegitimate.
For real. If I remember correctly in the past 30 years they’ve lifted 800 million people out of absolute poverty, and in terms of purchasing power parity have grown to be the world’s largest economy. And so far as I can tell they have no interest in being a global imperial hegemon like the US.
December 4, 2025 at 3:22 PM
For real. If I remember correctly in the past 30 years they’ve lifted 800 million people out of absolute poverty, and in terms of purchasing power parity have grown to be the world’s largest economy. And so far as I can tell they have no interest in being a global imperial hegemon like the US.