Claude Eckel
@troelb.bsky.social
Calling out misinformation on EVs since 2024 ^^
I just checked, the Leapmotor t03 is available at 18 900 € in Belgium, if you don't mind it being Chinese, it's all around a much better deal than the 25k Fiat.
December 22, 2025 at 9:55 PM
I just checked, the Leapmotor t03 is available at 18 900 € in Belgium, if you don't mind it being Chinese, it's all around a much better deal than the 25k Fiat.
I'm not familiar with the market in Belgium, but in Germany, prices are getting closer, starting in the higher segments. New models of BMW and Mercedes are comparable to ICE prices. Skoda Elroq and Karoq are nearly identical... Only small cars with good range aren't available at reasonable prices :(
December 22, 2025 at 9:45 PM
I'm not familiar with the market in Belgium, but in Germany, prices are getting closer, starting in the higher segments. New models of BMW and Mercedes are comparable to ICE prices. Skoda Elroq and Karoq are nearly identical... Only small cars with good range aren't available at reasonable prices :(
That's exactly why I exposed China previously. China controls like 90% of the world's lithium refinement capacity. They hold most patents on LFP technology (a cheap and reliable cathode chemistry). They have an edge right now, but even in Europe consumer prices of ICE and EVs are converging.
December 22, 2025 at 9:45 PM
That's exactly why I exposed China previously. China controls like 90% of the world's lithium refinement capacity. They hold most patents on LFP technology (a cheap and reliable cathode chemistry). They have an edge right now, but even in Europe consumer prices of ICE and EVs are converging.
What? I thought electricity is cheap in the US compared to Europe?!
What's your electricity cost per kWh and usual gas price?
Example for my place: driving my ICE car costs about 11 cents per km for fuel. Compare that to 31 cents/kWh and 0.17 kWh/km. It's about half the fuel cost at ~5,3 cents/km.
What's your electricity cost per kWh and usual gas price?
Example for my place: driving my ICE car costs about 11 cents per km for fuel. Compare that to 31 cents/kWh and 0.17 kWh/km. It's about half the fuel cost at ~5,3 cents/km.
December 22, 2025 at 9:28 PM
What? I thought electricity is cheap in the US compared to Europe?!
What's your electricity cost per kWh and usual gas price?
Example for my place: driving my ICE car costs about 11 cents per km for fuel. Compare that to 31 cents/kWh and 0.17 kWh/km. It's about half the fuel cost at ~5,3 cents/km.
What's your electricity cost per kWh and usual gas price?
Example for my place: driving my ICE car costs about 11 cents per km for fuel. Compare that to 31 cents/kWh and 0.17 kWh/km. It's about half the fuel cost at ~5,3 cents/km.
Isn't it convenient to call people clueless instead of coming up with an actual argument? ^^
December 22, 2025 at 6:41 AM
Isn't it convenient to call people clueless instead of coming up with an actual argument? ^^
Solar and EVs are investments with positive returns in most settings. If you have an old solar installation, I guess you have a garage or carport, too? So you can charge at home? In that case, an EV is probably cheaper for you in the long run, the question is more about convenience and range.
December 22, 2025 at 6:29 AM
Solar and EVs are investments with positive returns in most settings. If you have an old solar installation, I guess you have a garage or carport, too? So you can charge at home? In that case, an EV is probably cheaper for you in the long run, the question is more about convenience and range.
Cars were always made for transportation. Sure, there are emotional aspects to them that are based on early impressions. That's why resistance to EVs is now prevalent in old people. Young people without those distorted memories see EVs for what they are: the better product.
December 22, 2025 at 6:23 AM
Cars were always made for transportation. Sure, there are emotional aspects to them that are based on early impressions. That's why resistance to EVs is now prevalent in old people. Young people without those distorted memories see EVs for what they are: the better product.
With current battery prices, production cost can be the same now. However, setting up new production lines, developing new platforms and geopolitical risks make EVs still more expensive outside of China at this time in most segments. Most of these factors will change in the coming decade.
December 21, 2025 at 7:09 PM
With current battery prices, production cost can be the same now. However, setting up new production lines, developing new platforms and geopolitical risks make EVs still more expensive outside of China at this time in most segments. Most of these factors will change in the coming decade.
At this point I have to wonder if you are serious or doing a false flag... Because I never saw any real person seriously promoting forced measures in this context. I considered it a boogie man of the right that has no basis in reality.
December 21, 2025 at 6:42 PM
At this point I have to wonder if you are serious or doing a false flag... Because I never saw any real person seriously promoting forced measures in this context. I considered it a boogie man of the right that has no basis in reality.
Die Brennstoffzelle hat einen Wirkungsgrad von ca. 60%, damit kommt am Schluss ebenso Strom in den Elektromotor wie beim BEV, nur brauchst du mehr Gas.
Also selbst wenn du vom Gas startest (was niemand will), ist Wasserstoff im PKW Energieverschwendung.
Also selbst wenn du vom Gas startest (was niemand will), ist Wasserstoff im PKW Energieverschwendung.
December 18, 2025 at 3:48 PM
Die Brennstoffzelle hat einen Wirkungsgrad von ca. 60%, damit kommt am Schluss ebenso Strom in den Elektromotor wie beim BEV, nur brauchst du mehr Gas.
Also selbst wenn du vom Gas startest (was niemand will), ist Wasserstoff im PKW Energieverschwendung.
Also selbst wenn du vom Gas startest (was niemand will), ist Wasserstoff im PKW Energieverschwendung.
Biogas kaum, hauptsächlich Erdgas. Ist aber auch egal. Aus dem Gas macht ein modernes Kraftwerk ~60% Strom.
Machst du Wasserstoff, verlierst du bei der Dampfreformierung schon ein Drittel. Der Wasserstoff muss komprimiert und transportiert werden um dann in der Brennstoffzelle verströmt zu werden.
Machst du Wasserstoff, verlierst du bei der Dampfreformierung schon ein Drittel. Der Wasserstoff muss komprimiert und transportiert werden um dann in der Brennstoffzelle verströmt zu werden.
December 18, 2025 at 3:48 PM
Biogas kaum, hauptsächlich Erdgas. Ist aber auch egal. Aus dem Gas macht ein modernes Kraftwerk ~60% Strom.
Machst du Wasserstoff, verlierst du bei der Dampfreformierung schon ein Drittel. Der Wasserstoff muss komprimiert und transportiert werden um dann in der Brennstoffzelle verströmt zu werden.
Machst du Wasserstoff, verlierst du bei der Dampfreformierung schon ein Drittel. Der Wasserstoff muss komprimiert und transportiert werden um dann in der Brennstoffzelle verströmt zu werden.
Hoppla, das war wohl schon zu kompliziert. Also ganz langsam damit du auch bis zu den Zahlen durch hältst: wo kommt denn dein schöner Wasserstoff her?
December 18, 2025 at 1:57 PM
Hoppla, das war wohl schon zu kompliziert. Also ganz langsam damit du auch bis zu den Zahlen durch hältst: wo kommt denn dein schöner Wasserstoff her?
Dann wäre es vermutlich voll schlau auf Technologien zu setzen, die Energie einsparen, oder?
Wollen wir das am Beispiel BEV vs FCEV durchrechnen?
Wollen wir das am Beispiel BEV vs FCEV durchrechnen?
December 18, 2025 at 1:35 PM
Dann wäre es vermutlich voll schlau auf Technologien zu setzen, die Energie einsparen, oder?
Wollen wir das am Beispiel BEV vs FCEV durchrechnen?
Wollen wir das am Beispiel BEV vs FCEV durchrechnen?
I think the Leapmotor t03 is about £ 16000 in the UK? But of course, low- and mid-income households don't buy new cars...
So perhaps it will take a few more years until those are available in the used market in substantial numbers.
So perhaps it will take a few more years until those are available in the used market in substantial numbers.
November 9, 2025 at 9:41 PM
I think the Leapmotor t03 is about £ 16000 in the UK? But of course, low- and mid-income households don't buy new cars...
So perhaps it will take a few more years until those are available in the used market in substantial numbers.
So perhaps it will take a few more years until those are available in the used market in substantial numbers.
I'm not that familiar with the UK market, but in Germany prices for EVs and ICEVs have nearly leveled. Even if you can't charge at home, EVs are cheaper after a few years.
It's really more about information than about income. Heat pumps and solar are mostly relevant for home owners, though.
It's really more about information than about income. Heat pumps and solar are mostly relevant for home owners, though.
November 9, 2025 at 7:53 AM
I'm not that familiar with the UK market, but in Germany prices for EVs and ICEVs have nearly leveled. Even if you can't charge at home, EVs are cheaper after a few years.
It's really more about information than about income. Heat pumps and solar are mostly relevant for home owners, though.
It's really more about information than about income. Heat pumps and solar are mostly relevant for home owners, though.
Vielen Dank für die Recherche und Aufklärung! Inhaltlich absolut top!
Nur die reißerische Aufmachung ist nicht so mein Fall, aber auch hier gelten wohl die Gesetze der Aufmerksamkeitsökonomie :/
Nur die reißerische Aufmachung ist nicht so mein Fall, aber auch hier gelten wohl die Gesetze der Aufmerksamkeitsökonomie :/
November 8, 2025 at 9:10 PM
Vielen Dank für die Recherche und Aufklärung! Inhaltlich absolut top!
Nur die reißerische Aufmachung ist nicht so mein Fall, aber auch hier gelten wohl die Gesetze der Aufmerksamkeitsökonomie :/
Nur die reißerische Aufmachung ist nicht so mein Fall, aber auch hier gelten wohl die Gesetze der Aufmerksamkeitsökonomie :/
I don't care about any conspiracy theory you're into. Just documenting that the technology is out today. I also don't care if your initial assessment was uninformed or deliberately false, it just needed correction.
October 16, 2025 at 1:45 PM
I don't care about any conspiracy theory you're into. Just documenting that the technology is out today. I also don't care if your initial assessment was uninformed or deliberately false, it just needed correction.
The technology is available. Your government keeping it from you doesn't change that.
BYD (on roads today)
insideevs.com/news/756144/...
Huawei & Geely (not available yet)
insideevs.com/news/755163/...
Mercedes (AMG prototype)
insideevs.com/news/771674/...
BYD (on roads today)
insideevs.com/news/756144/...
Huawei & Geely (not available yet)
insideevs.com/news/755163/...
Mercedes (AMG prototype)
insideevs.com/news/771674/...
BYD's Five-Minute Fast-Charging EV Is Even Cheaper Than We Thought
The BYD Han L sedan blows every other EV out of the water when it comes to charging, but still costs less than a Tesla Model 3.
insideevs.com
October 16, 2025 at 4:25 AM
The technology is available. Your government keeping it from you doesn't change that.
BYD (on roads today)
insideevs.com/news/756144/...
Huawei & Geely (not available yet)
insideevs.com/news/755163/...
Mercedes (AMG prototype)
insideevs.com/news/771674/...
BYD (on roads today)
insideevs.com/news/756144/...
Huawei & Geely (not available yet)
insideevs.com/news/755163/...
Mercedes (AMG prototype)
insideevs.com/news/771674/...
Shouldn't everyone be driving diesel then? As it is the predominant choice for long haul trucking?
I don't think that comparison adds a lot of value. Driving profiles are just too different.
I do agree that range is a bigger concern in the US than in Europe or Asia, though.
I don't think that comparison adds a lot of value. Driving profiles are just too different.
I do agree that range is a bigger concern in the US than in Europe or Asia, though.
October 15, 2025 at 7:58 PM
Shouldn't everyone be driving diesel then? As it is the predominant choice for long haul trucking?
I don't think that comparison adds a lot of value. Driving profiles are just too different.
I do agree that range is a bigger concern in the US than in Europe or Asia, though.
I don't think that comparison adds a lot of value. Driving profiles are just too different.
I do agree that range is a bigger concern in the US than in Europe or Asia, though.
1. It does not take hours to refill an EV. Current technology allows for charging ~250 miles of range in under 10 minutes.
2. The hour-long charging time corresponds to level 1 or level 2 charging at home, which is more convenient than visiting a gas station and doesn't need new infrastructure.
2. The hour-long charging time corresponds to level 1 or level 2 charging at home, which is more convenient than visiting a gas station and doesn't need new infrastructure.
October 15, 2025 at 5:04 PM
1. It does not take hours to refill an EV. Current technology allows for charging ~250 miles of range in under 10 minutes.
2. The hour-long charging time corresponds to level 1 or level 2 charging at home, which is more convenient than visiting a gas station and doesn't need new infrastructure.
2. The hour-long charging time corresponds to level 1 or level 2 charging at home, which is more convenient than visiting a gas station and doesn't need new infrastructure.
Predictions about the future are notoriously hard. We are dealing with nonlinear effects, unique events and more.
I guess your counterargument is that EVs are not convenient enough for the majority of people. And while it might be possible, I disagree and like to at least correct your assumptions:
I guess your counterargument is that EVs are not convenient enough for the majority of people. And while it might be possible, I disagree and like to at least correct your assumptions:
October 15, 2025 at 5:04 PM
Predictions about the future are notoriously hard. We are dealing with nonlinear effects, unique events and more.
I guess your counterargument is that EVs are not convenient enough for the majority of people. And while it might be possible, I disagree and like to at least correct your assumptions:
I guess your counterargument is that EVs are not convenient enough for the majority of people. And while it might be possible, I disagree and like to at least correct your assumptions:
If it's about pure speed, the fastest car is an EV right now, but that's way outside of street driving ^^
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BYD Yangwang U9 Xtreme: Electric hypercar breaks speed record
The fastest production vehicle is no longer the Bugatti Chiron Super Sport 300+, but the fully electric BYD Yangwang U9 Xtreme with its 2220 kW.
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October 14, 2025 at 4:51 AM
If it's about pure speed, the fastest car is an EV right now, but that's way outside of street driving ^^
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In Germany, that's a valid concern, as some people drive substantial distances at >110 mph. In countries with general speed limits, the difference is rather small.
High speeds always reduce range, but some EVs can handle high speeds better than others, like Mercedes' new CLA.
High speeds always reduce range, but some EVs can handle high speeds better than others, like Mercedes' new CLA.
October 14, 2025 at 4:49 AM
In Germany, that's a valid concern, as some people drive substantial distances at >110 mph. In countries with general speed limits, the difference is rather small.
High speeds always reduce range, but some EVs can handle high speeds better than others, like Mercedes' new CLA.
High speeds always reduce range, but some EVs can handle high speeds better than others, like Mercedes' new CLA.