So I think if we’re lose sight of a future in breaking we have no agency over, then we can be tempted to build empires on earth in imitation of a kingdom only Jesus can create at his return to redeem creation.

So we can talk about “building the kingdom” by a limited sense. But I don’t think that’s the full sense. When we think we’re the kingdom we may be tempted to pursue political power to create it by our own efforts. Or think Jesus’ return is dependent on our action somehow.

My two caveats to that would be
1) we’re the Body in a sense, but Jesus was also risen actually in our human timeline in the resurrection and that physical risen from the dead Jesus will return to us; and 2) God will bring about that future not through us, but by that final return of the rez. Jesus.

Well now I feel like a simpleton having never thought to do it the easy way like that 😆

BOS not BCP is my view honestly. BCP *is* our worship, doctrine, and discipline. Rubrics must be followed. Everything else is a suggestion. I take the BOS like open source software to adapt as needed. Plus, L&C is usually not on Sunday morning, but is a devotional weekday service, like prayer beads.

Tough decision to make. Will offer a prayer for you and them during this.

Thank you!

Figure of speech? Ie “enough to fill 12 baskets”. Not necessarily that they actually put them in baskets.

“It was 5 football fields long”

We use “gallons” this way. Both a precise measurement, an object (milk), and a general idea of an amount.

I need to uh, work on my Latin, but this is really surprising and interesting. What’s the reference exactly? I want to find it.

At my home altar often a bell, light two candles, sometimes say the antiphon on the hymn from the English Office “All praise to God the Father be, all praise eternal Son to thee, all glory as is ever meet to God the Holy Paraclete, Amen” whilst lighting. Then a bit of the Jesus Prayer after that.

Fun fact though: Colossae had a major shrine in honor of St. Michael. Interesting in light of the thing about worshipping angels.

And in spite of it being only (3) above, it’s given us one of the most majestic passages about the kingship of Jesus over all things! ⚓️

After Epiphany is a good idea. I may try that!

Forgot the ⚓️

Huh! My experience has been the opposite. All previous places I’ve been in never used the contemporary version (nor here, only prayed it at Diocese events) so the modern one feels odd on my tongue I’ll admit

That’s quite the description! “Let us pray in the slightly modernized traditional ecumenical words our Savior Christ hath taught us”

Really good! My only caveat is I think resurrection means more still than alive to God after physical death. There will be a physical redemption of material creation in which we’re raised as Jesus was raised in glorified material bodies. B/c bodies and creation matter to God.

You might be pleased to know then that I just use the altar book as is here, so avoid that problem, ha!

But I can see that useful for that purpose.