Discussion question: Are we preserving language or enabling communication? Are we creating a Tower of Babel? Are we ossifying language through the unchanging nature of Unicode? #FaceInterface
January 19, 2025 at 1:48 AM
Discussion question: Are we preserving language or enabling communication? Are we creating a Tower of Babel? Are we ossifying language through the unchanging nature of Unicode? #FaceInterface
Eason Lu: Local practitioners of Nüshu are not pleased with the developments. He Yanxin (original practitioner) refused to create any new Nüshu artifacts or engage with scholars. "The Nüshu scholars are striving to 'save' isn't what she 'used'." Problem is writing-centered approach. #FaceInterface
January 19, 2025 at 12:04 AM
Eason Lu: Local practitioners of Nüshu are not pleased with the developments. He Yanxin (original practitioner) refused to create any new Nüshu artifacts or engage with scholars. "The Nüshu scholars are striving to 'save' isn't what she 'used'." Problem is writing-centered approach. #FaceInterface
John Hudson: Bangla as highly conventional, lots of ligatures. Fantasy to create a Bangla font that also supports Sanskrit conjuncts. Sinhala can have letters touching each other to show it's a conjunct. "How in a font do you make them touch?" ZWJ! But how to interpret. #FaceInterface
January 17, 2025 at 8:41 PM
John Hudson: Bangla as highly conventional, lots of ligatures. Fantasy to create a Bangla font that also supports Sanskrit conjuncts. Sinhala can have letters touching each other to show it's a conjunct. "How in a font do you make them touch?" ZWJ! But how to interpret. #FaceInterface
@tsmullaney.bsky.social welcoming keynote speaker Dr. Adam Yeo, who has arrived straight from the airport after his visa to the US from the Ivory Coast came through at the very last minute. Speaking on "The Future of Bété Script: Embracing Digital Inclusion". #FaceInterface
January 18, 2025 at 1:09 AM
@tsmullaney.bsky.social welcoming keynote speaker Dr. Adam Yeo, who has arrived straight from the airport after his visa to the US from the Ivory Coast came through at the very last minute. Speaking on "The Future of Bété Script: Embracing Digital Inclusion". #FaceInterface
Sarmad Hussain: label generation rules were defined for what characters can and should be put in a domain name. "Second level" domain = example in example [.] com, com is "top level". Can have different rules for each of those. For Arabic, 35 experts from 22 countries decided on this. #FaceInterface
January 17, 2025 at 11:39 PM
Sarmad Hussain: label generation rules were defined for what characters can and should be put in a domain name. "Second level" domain = example in example [.] com, com is "top level". Can have different rules for each of those. For Arabic, 35 experts from 22 countries decided on this. #FaceInterface
Hrant Papazian: "Preservation is for museums. Young people don't like to go to museums because they don't have a past. Young people want to make a future, and the future is the only way out. We have to build the future and get tools for the future. Young women matter more for Nüshu." #FaceInterface
January 19, 2025 at 2:02 AM
Hrant Papazian: "Preservation is for museums. Young people don't like to go to museums because they don't have a past. Young people want to make a future, and the future is the only way out. We have to build the future and get tools for the future. Young women matter more for Nüshu." #FaceInterface
Neil Patel: Can't install fonts on the phone. Need to use a workaround, writing text and sharing it as an image. Disincentivizes people from using Sunuwar on the phone. No funding for Noto font, which would only apply to new phones anyway. #FaceInterface
January 18, 2025 at 6:13 PM
Neil Patel: Can't install fonts on the phone. Need to use a workaround, writing text and sharing it as an image. Disincentivizes people from using Sunuwar on the phone. No funding for Noto font, which would only apply to new phones anyway. #FaceInterface
Kourosh Beigpour: Keyboard is still not widely available; have approached Microsoft to add it to the system. For font design, started with open-source font and augmented it with Laki characters. Designed display font for shorter texts. #FaceInterface
January 18, 2025 at 5:52 PM
Kourosh Beigpour: Keyboard is still not widely available; have approached Microsoft to add it to the system. For font design, started with open-source font and augmented it with Laki characters. Designed display font for shorter texts. #FaceInterface
Loïc Marleix: Working on a word processor to play with LoCoS. Easy to write with a pen, but harder on the computer. Creating a simple interface for text creation. Current virtual keyboard is inefficient; thinking about compact layout keyboard with complex key combination. #FaceInterface
January 19, 2025 at 12:47 AM
Loïc Marleix: Working on a word processor to play with LoCoS. Easy to write with a pen, but harder on the computer. Creating a simple interface for text creation. Current virtual keyboard is inefficient; thinking about compact layout keyboard with complex key combination. #FaceInterface
Eason Lu: Humanities scholars are in a useful position to ask more questions as we approach vanishing scripts. Ask as scholars, technologists, and artists, where do we draw the line between interpretation and misinterpretation, where's the line for reconstruction? #FaceInterface
January 19, 2025 at 12:07 AM
Eason Lu: Humanities scholars are in a useful position to ask more questions as we approach vanishing scripts. Ask as scholars, technologists, and artists, where do we draw the line between interpretation and misinterpretation, where's the line for reconstruction? #FaceInterface
Question: What would you recommend as a strategy for getting a script into Unicode when no examples of the original usage survive?
Simon: That's the default situation for African scripts. Proving use case with examples of use is really hard. Make a script, encourage usage. #FaceInterface
Simon: That's the default situation for African scripts. Proving use case with examples of use is really hard. Make a script, encourage usage. #FaceInterface
January 18, 2025 at 6:52 PM
Question: What would you recommend as a strategy for getting a script into Unicode when no examples of the original usage survive?
Simon: That's the default situation for African scripts. Proving use case with examples of use is really hard. Make a script, encourage usage. #FaceInterface
Simon: That's the default situation for African scripts. Proving use case with examples of use is really hard. Make a script, encourage usage. #FaceInterface
Simon Charwey: Worked with Yale faculty and Bureau of Ghana languages to gather phonetic data that shaped decisions about glyph positioning and diacritic stacking. #FaceInterface
January 18, 2025 at 6:29 PM
Simon Charwey: Worked with Yale faculty and Bureau of Ghana languages to gather phonetic data that shaped decisions about glyph positioning and diacritic stacking. #FaceInterface
Samuel Minev-Benzecry: Trust and mutual respect takes time, and is a two-way street. Different communities with different contexts will react to new tech differently. Who owns a language? Encoding (first step) is a long process; 10 years for Sunuwar. Accuracy matters. #FaceInterface
January 18, 2025 at 12:04 AM
Samuel Minev-Benzecry: Trust and mutual respect takes time, and is a two-way street. Different communities with different contexts will react to new tech differently. Who owns a language? Encoding (first step) is a long process; 10 years for Sunuwar. Accuracy matters. #FaceInterface
Bridget Chase: feedback from an elder on a prototype keyboard that "there is no f in my language, but there is in Facebook". Switching keyboards back and forth was a huge hassle. But other people also had strong feelings about not having any characters outside their orthography. #FaceInterface
January 17, 2025 at 5:41 PM
Bridget Chase: feedback from an elder on a prototype keyboard that "there is no f in my language, but there is in Facebook". Switching keyboards back and forth was a huge hassle. But other people also had strong feelings about not having any characters outside their orthography. #FaceInterface
@tsmullaney.bsky.social welcoming Dr. Tawfik Jelassi, UNESCO Assistant Director-General for Communication and Information. Jelassi: "It is easy to recognize UNESCO people: the ones wearing a tie. People were looking at us funny. Are we bankers? No, we're the UNESCO people." #FaceInterface
January 17, 2025 at 10:26 PM
@tsmullaney.bsky.social welcoming Dr. Tawfik Jelassi, UNESCO Assistant Director-General for Communication and Information. Jelassi: "It is easy to recognize UNESCO people: the ones wearing a tie. People were looking at us funny. Are we bankers? No, we're the UNESCO people." #FaceInterface
Manuel López Rocha: Can a typeface function as a learning/teaching tool? Most people learn to read and write in Spanish. Turned digraph into ligature. Contextual glyphs (via OpenType features) help differentiate voiced and voiceless consonants. #FaceInterface
January 17, 2025 at 6:14 PM
Manuel López Rocha: Can a typeface function as a learning/teaching tool? Most people learn to read and write in Spanish. Turned digraph into ligature. Contextual glyphs (via OpenType features) help differentiate voiced and voiceless consonants. #FaceInterface
Sina Ahmadi: Gave volunteers a set of sentences in a highly resourced language they know and in English. Community-driven multilingual parallel corpus, > 50,000 sentences total. Previously some of the languages only had 100 sentences online. All sentences aligned with English. #FaceInterface
January 19, 2025 at 1:05 AM
Sina Ahmadi: Gave volunteers a set of sentences in a highly resourced language they know and in English. Community-driven multilingual parallel corpus, > 50,000 sentences total. Previously some of the languages only had 100 sentences online. All sentences aligned with English. #FaceInterface
Eason Lu: Nüshu was highly visible (and audible!), openly practiced by women at public events. Due to delicate "ant script" and expression through embroidery, men dismissed as extension of nügong (women's needlework), skill deemed unnecessary for men to learn. #FaceInterface
January 19, 2025 at 12:00 AM
Eason Lu: Nüshu was highly visible (and audible!), openly practiced by women at public events. Due to delicate "ant script" and expression through embroidery, men dismissed as extension of nügong (women's needlework), skill deemed unnecessary for men to learn. #FaceInterface
Kateryna Korolevtseva: Half-ustav script, vyaz used in headings, Ukrainian antiqua (later used in book covers), skoropys (Cyrillic handwriting from baroque era). #FaceInterface
January 18, 2025 at 10:58 PM
Kateryna Korolevtseva: Half-ustav script, vyaz used in headings, Ukrainian antiqua (later used in book covers), skoropys (Cyrillic handwriting from baroque era). #FaceInterface
Marta Bernstein: City guide "yellow pages" has a list of type founders. Don't trust the first result, explore the full document. World, national, local expos with lists of participants, dates, comments on trade magazines. "Misspelling is a thing." Search for the common misspellings. #FaceInterface
January 18, 2025 at 10:19 PM
Marta Bernstein: City guide "yellow pages" has a list of type founders. Don't trust the first result, explore the full document. World, national, local expos with lists of participants, dates, comments on trade magazines. "Misspelling is a thing." Search for the common misspellings. #FaceInterface
Kourosh Beigpour: Laki community was offended by some of the font / keyboard prototypes. There were examples they didn't like, until I showed them historical proof of use.
Simon: Question of who initiates project.
Neil: Leads come in from everywhere, random contact on LinkedIn. #FaceInterface
Simon: Question of who initiates project.
Neil: Leads come in from everywhere, random contact on LinkedIn. #FaceInterface
January 18, 2025 at 7:05 PM
Kourosh Beigpour: Laki community was offended by some of the font / keyboard prototypes. There were examples they didn't like, until I showed them historical proof of use.
Simon: Question of who initiates project.
Neil: Leads come in from everywhere, random contact on LinkedIn. #FaceInterface
Simon: Question of who initiates project.
Neil: Leads come in from everywhere, random contact on LinkedIn. #FaceInterface
Adam Yeo: Traditional scripts like Bété face dual challenge of preservation and adaptation. Integration of Bété into digital spaces is essential for preservation and accessibility. Rooted in Côte d'Ivoire, on coast of Africa. More than 60 writing systems in Africa. #FaceInterface
January 18, 2025 at 1:13 AM
Adam Yeo: Traditional scripts like Bété face dual challenge of preservation and adaptation. Integration of Bété into digital spaces is essential for preservation and accessibility. Rooted in Côte d'Ivoire, on coast of Africa. More than 60 writing systems in Africa. #FaceInterface
Sina Ahmadi: Hawrami had almost 10 people contributing. 46 hours of speech data collected using DOLMA speech bot. Used same multilingual corpus, asked people to select language and read sentences. 28k utterances! #FaceInterface
January 19, 2025 at 1:06 AM
Sina Ahmadi: Hawrami had almost 10 people contributing. 46 hours of speech data collected using DOLMA speech bot. Used same multilingual corpus, asked people to select language and read sentences. 28k utterances! #FaceInterface
Marta Bernstein: private collectors sometimes are willing to share with researchers because we're not stealing anything. Prep the visit. Photograph everything (and archive photos right away). Librarians are amazing, ask them for guidance. #FaceInterface
January 18, 2025 at 10:16 PM
Marta Bernstein: private collectors sometimes are willing to share with researchers because we're not stealing anything. Prep the visit. Photograph everything (and archive photos right away). Librarians are amazing, ask them for guidance. #FaceInterface
Frida Medrano: Can use sliders to go from thin to bold weights, as well as different gradients. Maintains full intensity on the outline and the center of the interior to make it readable and clearly visible across all weights. Decrease opacity with heavier weights. #FaceInterface
January 18, 2025 at 7:43 PM
Frida Medrano: Can use sliders to go from thin to bold weights, as well as different gradients. Maintains full intensity on the outline and the center of the interior to make it readable and clearly visible across all weights. Decrease opacity with heavier weights. #FaceInterface