Super Bowl–winning quarterback Jim McMahon joins Carl Lee, Lisa Otey, and Hollis Lewis for a candid, hilarious, and deeply insightful conversation that goes far beyond football highlights. McMahon reflects on the unmatched physicality and chemistry of the Chicago Bears dynasty, brutal practices under Mike Ditka and Buddy Ryan, and why that locker room forged lifelong bonds. He shares never-before-told stories behind his iconic sunglasses and headbands, including how he outsmarted the NFL rulebook to promote charities on the game’s biggest stage. The discussion spans his multi-sport roots at BYU, legendary teammates like Walter Payton, misconceptions about swagger vs. leadership, and why today’s quarterbacks—and teams—are built differently. An unforgettable hour with one of football’s true originals.

Super Bowl–winning quarterback Jim McMahon joins Carl Lee, Lisa Otey, and Hollis Lewis for a candid, hilarious, and deeply insightful conversation that goes far beyond football highlights. McMahon reflects on the unmatched physicality and chemistry of the Chicago Bears dynasty, brutal practices under Mike Ditka and Buddy Ryan, and why that locker room forged lifelong bonds. He shares never-before-told stories behind his iconic sunglasses and headbands, including how he outsmarted the NFL rulebook to promote charities on the game’s biggest stage. The discussion spans his multi-sport roots at BYU, legendary teammates like Walter Payton, misconceptions about swagger vs. leadership, and why today’s quarterbacks—and teams—are built differently. An unforgettable hour with one of football’s true originals.

On this episode of Let’s Talk, Carl Lee, Lisa Otey, and Hollis Lewis sit down with Coach Mark Snyder — former Marshall head coach, longtime Jim Tressel assistant, defensive coordinator at Ohio State, and UFL veteran — for one of the most insightful football conversations the show has hosted. Snyder breaks down how NIL and the transfer portal have transformed coaching into an NFL-style grind, why athlete development is slipping, and why multi-sport kids still make the best players. He shares rare behind-the-scenes stories about We Are Marshall, including working with Matthew McConaughey, his personal ties to Red Dawson, and memories of the program’s rebuild. The group dives into playoff controversies, SEC bias, high-school NIL, locker-room chemistry, recruiting red flags, and the future of bowl games — a wide-ranging, thoughtful conversation about where college football is headed and what still makes it special.

On this episode of Let’s Talk, Carl Lee, Lisa Otey, and Hollis Lewis sit down with Coach Mark Snyder — former Marshall head coach, longtime Jim Tressel assistant, defensive coordinator at Ohio State, and UFL veteran — for one of the most insightful football conversations the show has hosted. Snyder breaks down how NIL and the transfer portal have transformed coaching into an NFL-style grind, why athlete development is slipping, and why multi-sport kids still make the best players. He shares rare behind-the-scenes stories about We Are Marshall, including working with Matthew McConaughey, his personal ties to Red Dawson, and memories of the program’s rebuild. The group dives into playoff controversies, SEC bias, high-school NIL, locker-room chemistry, recruiting red flags, and the future of bowl games — a wide-ranging, thoughtful conversation about where college football is headed and what still makes it special.