I also own my house. I just want to live in it. I don't really care about the "value" of it. Especially since if the value of my house goes up then ALL of the other houses in the area that I want to live will proportionally go up and it won't matter. Let's just help people LIVE.
There is no world in which it is normal for the president to publicly call upon his attorney general to hurry up and prosecute his political foes. It’s like the Watergate tapes but posted on social media. Let’s get a grip on what’s happening here.
I don't blame you. A lot of people have. I just wouldn't treat them like a unibody with ice. Don't expect them to go against ice, but there are tactics you can do to get/force them to help in more indirect ways.
That's another interesting thing to keep track of. Yeah the union will 100% be pro trump, but local PD can be mixed(generally conservative but various levels of frustration). I will agree that if ice shows up, it should be an auto dip if you feel uncomfortable with combativeness. Shits going down.
I understand that this was a long thread under stancils random feud of the day, but I'm not actually defending his idea that you should RSVP. I don't actually care about that. I'm just saying that many people go, and right now the vast majority won't come home with tear gas on their clothes.
Not everyone is comfortable with being combative right now(or maybe ever). They still want to have a voice. Not every event or movement needs to go 0->60 the moment you arrive. Not every answer is a molotov.
Once you get to a protest: Are you aware of your surroundings? Are you generally aware of what the organizers are doing? Are you leaving at the pre planned time?
Again nos will increase your risk. Shit CAN happen, but generally speaking you can be safe.
Living is not risk free. So let's layout how you can limit risk.
You see a protest/march planned. Was a permit pulled? Is the grp organizing it generally calm? Is the location generally nonconfrontational? Has your town been generally calm in the past week?
I dunno, I would say that NYPD operates quite differently from random town/city initial PD. They have different triggers and tolerances. "Your cops" are different to "my cops." If you say they are all the same then you just don't understand how people or organizations work.
Fair. I should have pointed out that you should also be aware of the tensions happening in your city in the days prior. It makes sense for people in LA to be more risk aware/averse. You got that magnifying glass pointed straight at your city right now.
Yeah, that's kinda my point. They were scared shitless. Cops end up being people, and they have the same exploitable weaknesses all other people have. Did you think I was saying they ran in? My bad I guess I need to put in the little /s
Also to be clear, no I'm not Israeli, I don't just call everyone a Nazis. Maybe they weren't Nazis, but telling us all to go back to our countries and throwing up a hand seems to be the pretty good signals.
Yes. They were incidental and as such were outnumbered. Were REALLY trying to get some of the fellows riled up to fight (probably been drinking), but we told them to fuck off and they left after a while. It wasn't all that exciting. Im not gonna blow smoke my exp is pretty dull.
Sure. They have been doing all of the typical stuff. They have gone after protestors, but for protestors the line has been well defined. This is in sharp contrast to 2020 where the line was far fuzzier. That makes it easier for people that may not feel comfortable in more combative protests.
The only real thing I ever wanted to say was that not every protest is equally dangerous. Generally speaking you CAN go, speak out, and come home in your own car. Not tear gassed in a squad car.
3) the current regime can make a statement and track people(I'm not not in this group), but it's better to be early than to wait until the regime wants to go full Lukashenko if you want to go.
I basically do not disagree with anything said here. 1) core people are always going to be more at risk. 2) people with more inherent risk should consider their total risk(I have had to make this calculus myself since I'm an immigrant) …
Even though you may disagree that there may be less risky ways to protest, I'm glad at least you read that comment in the way that it was meant. To actually respond, I see your point, I just assumed that saying a whole protest movement referred to the most active element. May be my bad on that.
Sure. Timing, locale, and chance. Early on in the cycle the chance is lower. Later things get worse. Toothless protests are safER more active ones are less safe. i don't think we disagree on much.
