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Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · 15d

Well we can celebrate then together 🤣😂🤪

Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · 21d

Good you like my thinking 😍. Lots of others are similar minded @charlotte-hancox.bsky.social @s-ladwa.bsky.social @flammableflower.bsky.social @drlinneasoler.bsky.social @perrysc.bsky.social

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Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · 21d

Absolutely! It’s very en vogue at secondary schools at the minute. We’ve been doing in the lab since pre 2000.

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Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · 21d

Great question. @theotanner.bsky.social @jamewilmore.bsky.social @craigdcampbell.bsky.social any ideas? I’d guess the main thought would be the clever use of conversations to support learning in the lab?

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Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · Sep 7

Sadly, sounds about right. Hope you are both ok….

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Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · Sep 4

@annajkirkham.bsky.social @annabertram.bsky.social

Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · Sep 4

…. I’d be interested to hear from other lab people what they are doing. We are gold LEAF so we must be doing ok ish…@cate-cx.bsky.social @patrickthomson.bsky.social @flammableflower.bsky.social @theotanner.bsky.social @jamewilmore.bsky.social @charlottehancox.bsky.social @craigdcampbell.bsky.social

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Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · Sep 4

Now this is an interesting question…. No idea is the short answer. We are certainly doing all the can to reduce everything in our lab. We’ve talked about using coloured water to practice air sensitive conditions etc but as some point students donned to learn to handle dangerous chemicals…

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Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · Sep 4

But does this not remove the link between lab and theory of not roughly at same time?

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Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · Sep 4

…. These skills are noticeably absent from Covid graduates. The lab is such a unique learning environment that blogs like yours just totally ignore and your take plays beautifully into the hands of bean counters sadly.

Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · Sep 4

I never said it should be 50%. However I just can’t believe people think less than 20% is too much when at the end of the day, most research wouldn’t happen without lab skills (however you define this). As I said in reply to @tinaoverton.bsky.social so many other things happen in lab….

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Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · Sep 3

I always said you were a wise person @tina

And that’s before you talk about the staff/student interacts, the peer to peer learning, the list just goes on! Online work during COVID taught us all how import these interactions are so it’s disappointing to see posts claiming good labs dilute learning!

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Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · Sep 3

See I would come at this the other way though. How many people have to do final year projects (RSC requirement). How do you do anything meaningful without lab skills? Is 1/5 th of the course being labs really too much? I think it’s not enough!!!

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Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · Sep 3

I appreciate the shout out here 😍

Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · Sep 3

You should definitely check out some of our papers, especially our stuff on spiral curriculum.

www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi...

Revisiting skills is important to embed but it’s got to be “different” each time you return.

Developing a skills-based practical chemistry programme: an integrated, spiral curriculum approach

Teaching practical laboratory skills is a key component of preparing undergraduate students for future careers in chemistry and elsewhere. In this paper, we present our new strategy to teach practical...

www.degruyterbrill.com

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Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · Sep 3

I feel I should also give a huge shout out to lab staff across the uk and beyond. @annajkirkham.bsky.social @annabertram.bsky.social @perrysc.bsky.social @drlinneasoler.bsky.social @flammableflower.bsky.social @cpchem.bsky.social all do an amazing job too! There are many more out there!!!

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Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · Sep 3

But in most places it’s already shrunk by 25%! What theory course has done that so far?

Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · Sep 3

You are a wise man Dr Campbell!!

Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · Sep 3

Good lab staff make such a huge difference. Sadly they are hard to find. I’m so lucky to work with an amazing team @jamewilmore.bsky.social @theotanner.bsky.social @charlotte-hancox.bsky.social et a who are so good that their job! They make such a difference for the students.

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Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · Sep 3

I read somewhere that a bad GTA can ruin an excellent lab. Your experience has probably sadly just proved this… @craigdcampbell.bsky.social @jamewilmore.bsky.social anything to add?

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Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · Sep 3

You have never once suggested that student have less options etc. it’s always swipe at the labs. 300hrs is roughly 50days over 3 years so average of 17 days a year….

Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · Sep 3

I don’t understand why you are so anti labs. It’s already lost 100hrs. I am equally totally shocked by your bizarre assumption that labs don’t teaching problem solving… I thought you’d read my groups papers 🤣. The example you use is flawed. I teach electrochem in my lab….

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Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · Sep 1

Yeah other than a few passing in corridors, I didn’t even see you. Well done to the team though as this was because it was so busy with a packed timetable of great sessions!!

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Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · Sep 1

I don’t know of anyone that I’ve taught who didn’t pass it. @craigdcampbell.bsky.social @charlottehancox.bsky.social you know differently?

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Malcolm Stewart @malcolmstewart.bsky.social · Sep 1

Beautiful certificate!! @s-ladwa.bsky.social can you check so we can get one made that’s real rather than just a photo?

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