Am told, Starmer’s cronies think he is past the worst. Reform have hit their ceiling and U.K. will eventually start to benifit from Starmers wise management and stablity. The challenges added up to nothing and he will recover the 7 to 10 percent points he needs sitting in the centre. All bollocks…

Well hopeless Starmer and sidekick MacSweeney think appeasing them is the right think to do when People like Brecht, or Sir Karl Popper or other survivors of Nazism said otherwise. One of many bad points about Starmer is he has no sense of history.

Yawn - politics is not about plans, it’s about sentiment, timing and events. Then of course a week is a long time politics. Everybody knows Starmer’s vulnerable and it’s just a matter of whether or when it all goes wrong at the wrong time. Then he will be off.

The issue likely be, as always, the cover up. It’s not necessarily the overspend which matters but how they fiddled the numbers to hide it. False Accounting are the words which come to mind.

Those crystal balls… events are more likely to determine the outcome. The pressure on Ferage has only just begun. Starmer has few political qualities but two are: he is cynical and calculating. One more mistake and I do suspect he will be gone. It will be the context that anoints the successor.

Having lived with this corrupt media coverage all my life, am sick to death of it. The problem is Starmer has done nothing to deal with it. It’s not just his poor media management. It’s the argument that you cannot do anything because it will impact on the freedom of the press that’s factious.

Yawn - I am not sure growth equates with stability, timid regulatory reform and very limited public investment. More like no growth. I don’t even think this is a strategy. At best, it’s a spin on having no policy, no ideas and fear of doing something.

Very much so.

Ferage is capable of adapting. But does not handle attacks well. Support for reform is also driven by contempt, sentiment and fear, not considered views. It’s so complex. If he abandons the Trump approach and shifts into a deal with the Tories it could be very challenging. It’s not over.

I know … do you think it’s a condition that requires medical help? Given the amount of grief that I have suffered dealing with their delusions I do wonder.

Mr Gapes - please. It’s all about posturing, posing and vanity. It’s difficult. Consider the idiocy of these numpties. They cannot help themselves when their fantasies are challenged. I mean, they really think they are going to run the country. Such issues are so common with cults.

Groan - my experience is those that have that sort of money and don’t think they should pay tax have moved it off shore already. Talk of leaving is just posturing and a play on 90 days. Good riddance I say.

Well next, it will be we are not doing enough breeding. Too few babies. Then, somehow they will have to find a way of encouraging white only births. Arh… the delights of fascism.

Too right - my extended family, don’t give a monkey about statistics, policies, outcomes. Unless you cut off the drip feed of media poison which twists their minds we are well on the way down fascist rabbit hole. The lies cut at level which is about fear and works, nothing to do with empirical fact.

Nah - it’s about nice middle class Labour members who can not cope with nasty, ignorant voters who don’t share their views. Then cannot understand why their patronising, sanctimony coupled with occasional statistics are ignored, or worse, wind up more the people they wanted to convince.

Very much so … and if you want to explain popularism from another perspective, it’s based on older, out of touch voters of who dont work(retired). There are more of them than in previous generations as people live much, much longer skewing the vote to one based on sentimental and the past.

8 years as a steeple jack in Poland as they wouldn’t let him do any other work due to his political views

I am told by unreliable sources that he will be asked to stand down to give Andy Burnham a seat!! You cannot make it up.