Agreed, sounds like you’re having a similar-ish experience trying to be rationale these days, lol.

I think “leftists” is pretty well agreed upon as a group.

“Liberal” is so vague as to be a useless term. Very VERY dependent on who is saying it and in what context

I’m sure you’re right.

I just personally experience a particular frustration with leftists, because we ostensibly have the same goal (good things for society)

But somehow, I’m a demon for trying to go about it without a revolution.