Which, to be clear, existed way before Trump, who just turned the undercurrent into the mainstream

Does it count if it appeared in the sky ahead of an existential battle against an invading force, but then the invading force won and made the flag theirs?

🇩🇰

I wonder if it’s also a product of 🇩🇪 having been >> better than 🇮🇹 at reckoning with its past. Heavy focus on 20th century crowds out 19th c. nationalism.

Not so in 🇮🇹. The view “the only mistake of Mussolini was allying with Hitler” is shamefully not uncommon => more space for nationalistic history

Yap, and likely selective networks.

I am on a bus and being relatively bored, so I am running a survey among my friends on historical opinion of Vittorio Emanuele II. So far everyone has an informed opinion. But everyone has at least a university degree. Not quite representative.

Or it is self-selection. Or the causal effect of our (non-Italian) partners. Who knows?

But it’s at least an anecdote very consistent with the data, both in terms of directional migration and fertility rates

The recurring joke with my Italian friends in Denmark during our PhD was that to keep a research lab running you apparently need two things. A computer, and an Italian 😉

I genuinely find it surprising. I would *guess* most Italians know (and are not necessarily fond) of Cavour and Vittorio Emanuele II, even though they probably ignore the intricacies and history of the Risorgimento. It was a big deal in school.

I wonder if I am an optimist.

Which is coincidentally the funniest way of playing it

What about Wilhelm I though, his grandfather?

😂 maps are awesome though!

At high-school my history teacher noticed my interest and asked me whether I wanted to present some topics of my choice to the class.

She regretted quickly. My classmates somehow were not as hyped by maps of the siege of Alesia and printouts of the Bayeux tapestry.

Interesting! I know that history anywhere is not as well-known as I would assume, but I though the unification would be cemented in national consciousness at least.

I remember the quote, and wondered if the *under* had a similar meaning in German or it was a product of the translation.

Guess I will stick to the Conqueror (which is, after all, the real source of inspiration)

Background. My son is called Wilhelm. My wife gets mildly irritated by people replying “oh like Kaiser Wilhelm”, where Danes typically refer to Wilhelm II.

I am considering whether turning the usual reply “…og Wilhelm Erobreren” into “.. den første”. At least sometimes, for variety.

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Dude. You are not seriously asking those commentators to have logically consistent beliefs?

That ship has sailed long ago.