Alex Greyhawk
@asgreyhawk.bsky.social
Based in NW Indiana. Home-cooking instructor behind Thyme+Effort (thymeandeffort.com) . Amateur analog game designer. Giant film nerd. 1/2 of the now defunct Gratuitous Pausing podcast. Raised by the TV. Insufferable. (He/Him)
This film just amplified all the criticisms I had of the previous installment. And it's so frustrating.
November 1, 2025 at 6:32 AM
This film just amplified all the criticisms I had of the previous installment. And it's so frustrating.
Like there's the whole speech she gives about sparing Bailey, just after she frantically stabs him a dozen times and just before she kills him anyway. She even puts on the Ghostface outfit to do it. And then she abandons the mask at the end, but not before she's clearly tempted to keep it.
November 1, 2025 at 6:28 AM
Like there's the whole speech she gives about sparing Bailey, just after she frantically stabs him a dozen times and just before she kills him anyway. She even puts on the Ghostface outfit to do it. And then she abandons the mask at the end, but not before she's clearly tempted to keep it.
My bigger problem with the film is that it's trying to have it both ways with Sam and the legacy of Billy. Sam has both a killer instinct inherited from her father that she uses to survive, but also she's her own person unconnected to the sins of her father. And there's so much mixed messaging.
November 1, 2025 at 6:25 AM
My bigger problem with the film is that it's trying to have it both ways with Sam and the legacy of Billy. Sam has both a killer instinct inherited from her father that she uses to survive, but also she's her own person unconnected to the sins of her father. And there's so much mixed messaging.
I think as a slasher the film is on part with the last one, but a bit slow in parts. It's also the longest in the franchise, but I think a bit of fat trimming would have been a benefit.
November 1, 2025 at 6:21 AM
I think as a slasher the film is on part with the last one, but a bit slow in parts. It's also the longest in the franchise, but I think a bit of fat trimming would have been a benefit.
Well I was right about being too obvious to be a red herring. I had a stray thought about Quinn faking her death but I dismissed in since there was no precedent for it in the series. Fooled me good I guess. # killers is also a twist, it does bring the averageacross the films back up to a full 2
November 1, 2025 at 6:17 AM
Well I was right about being too obvious to be a red herring. I had a stray thought about Quinn faking her death but I dismissed in since there was no precedent for it in the series. Fooled me good I guess. # killers is also a twist, it does bring the averageacross the films back up to a full 2
I don't know what to make of Ethan. He's done so little this film and has managed to avoid all danger. He pops up too frequently to be a Mickey analog but only just. And with how much the film is pushing him as a suspect it's almost too obvious to be a red herring.
November 1, 2025 at 5:46 AM
I don't know what to make of Ethan. He's done so little this film and has managed to avoid all danger. He pops up too frequently to be a Mickey analog but only just. And with how much the film is pushing him as a suspect it's almost too obvious to be a red herring.
They talk about a killer's lair in the context of "a normal Stab movie" but that's never been a thing in Scream.
November 1, 2025 at 5:22 AM
They talk about a killer's lair in the context of "a normal Stab movie" but that's never been a thing in Scream.
Really curious as to who the Detective's other kid is. They've alluded to someone of tragedy in the past, so could be a connection to the killings. He doesn't feel like a suspect or red herring though.
November 1, 2025 at 5:16 AM
Really curious as to who the Detective's other kid is. They've alluded to someone of tragedy in the past, so could be a connection to the killings. He doesn't feel like a suspect or red herring though.
The ladder bridge scene was solid. I do like that they're making use of NYC as a setting and the different opportunities it brings.
November 1, 2025 at 5:10 AM
The ladder bridge scene was solid. I do like that they're making use of NYC as a setting and the different opportunities it brings.
Seriously? We cut to Sam's therapist and the TV is shouting "You're next" and it's over in like 30 seconds.
November 1, 2025 at 4:53 AM
Seriously? We cut to Sam's therapist and the TV is shouting "You're next" and it's over in like 30 seconds.
Don't love the character regression for Gale. I can maybe see Dewey's death being the cause of it, but sleazy cutthroat journalist Gale is not my cup of tea.
November 1, 2025 at 4:49 AM
Don't love the character regression for Gale. I can maybe see Dewey's death being the cause of it, but sleazy cutthroat journalist Gale is not my cup of tea.
Shit they brought back Kirby. I mean I liked Kirby, but I was not expecting another survivor from 4.
November 1, 2025 at 4:44 AM
Shit they brought back Kirby. I mean I liked Kirby, but I was not expecting another survivor from 4.
Plus you always had that divide between Ghostface and the unmasked killers in thr final act. They feel like different characters. Here with Ghostface actually using a gun it hits different. But still not the same as if Jason or Myers pulled out a gun.
November 1, 2025 at 4:40 AM
Plus you always had that divide between Ghostface and the unmasked killers in thr final act. They feel like different characters. Here with Ghostface actually using a gun it hits different. But still not the same as if Jason or Myers pulled out a gun.
I don't recall Ghostface ever using a gun before. The killers were always unmasked when they started using guns. I'm not sure how I feel about that. In general I feel that slashers using a gun is cheating, but it's not bothered me much since Ghostface is more humanized than a typical slasher.
November 1, 2025 at 4:37 AM
I don't recall Ghostface ever using a gun before. The killers were always unmasked when they started using guns. I'm not sure how I feel about that. In general I feel that slashers using a gun is cheating, but it's not bothered me much since Ghostface is more humanized than a typical slasher.
And judging by the way the killer shouted "who cares about movies!" at the beginning it seems like it's a direct revenge situation rather than more toxic Fandom stuff.
November 1, 2025 at 4:30 AM
And judging by the way the killer shouted "who cares about movies!" at the beginning it seems like it's a direct revenge situation rather than more toxic Fandom stuff.
Okay so it looks like the new killer motivation is trying to frame Sam and prove the rumors that she was the killer last time. I'm not sure how I feel about the whole rumor plot point yet (depends a lot on how the film tackles it) but the motivation is solid.
November 1, 2025 at 4:28 AM
Okay so it looks like the new killer motivation is trying to frame Sam and prove the rumors that she was the killer last time. I'm not sure how I feel about the whole rumor plot point yet (depends a lot on how the film tackles it) but the motivation is solid.
Woof. All the complaints I had at the end of the last thread about the way they treat Sam and her mental health is all front and center now. Really not good. I hope they turn that around.
November 1, 2025 at 4:10 AM
Woof. All the complaints I had at the end of the last thread about the way they treat Sam and her mental health is all front and center now. Really not good. I hope they turn that around.
Wait are they're going to kill the killer in the opening? Okay that's definitely a new direction.
November 1, 2025 at 4:01 AM
Wait are they're going to kill the killer in the opening? Okay that's definitely a new direction.
Huh. A couple of firsts there. First time I can recall blood ending up on the Ghostface mask. Also first time the killer has unmasked themselves this early. And they just showed that he knows Tara. This isn't a Stab movie to start things off. Interesting start.
November 1, 2025 at 3:58 AM
Huh. A couple of firsts there. First time I can recall blood ending up on the Ghostface mask. Also first time the killer has unmasked themselves this early. And they just showed that he knows Tara. This isn't a Stab movie to start things off. Interesting start.
Uh oh. We've got Samara Weaving as a pretty blond in the opening scene. Historically that's a death sentence in these movies.
November 1, 2025 at 3:49 AM
Uh oh. We've got Samara Weaving as a pretty blond in the opening scene. Historically that's a death sentence in these movies.
And a link to the preceding thread one last time.
Happy Halloween everyone! It's the last night of #Gravehaunt and we've got 2 more Scream movies to get though. First up is the 5th film just called Scream (2022). And I need to point out that it's odd to drop the number when a sequel released a year later goes right back to numbering again.
November 1, 2025 at 3:46 AM
And a link to the preceding thread one last time.
In general I think the decision to make Sam Billy's daughter was only really a detriment to the film. That said even with that dark cloud hanging over it, the film is solid. I think I still prefer 4, but it's a toss-up between this and the 1st film for the number 2 spot.
November 1, 2025 at 3:40 AM
In general I think the decision to make Sam Billy's daughter was only really a detriment to the film. That said even with that dark cloud hanging over it, the film is solid. I think I still prefer 4, but it's a toss-up between this and the 1st film for the number 2 spot.
It's shitty mental health stigma plus the whole inherit the sins of the father thing. You know some of the worst tropes that god trotted out all the time in the 80s horror films the original was satirizing. It feels like a huge step backward.
November 1, 2025 at 3:36 AM
It's shitty mental health stigma plus the whole inherit the sins of the father thing. You know some of the worst tropes that god trotted out all the time in the 80s horror films the original was satirizing. It feels like a huge step backward.