Obviously that belief isn't welcome in our spaces. My point is that a working class movement, packaged with social leftism, can speak to their economic realities to deprogram those beliefs. We won't get all of them and we might not even get most of them but it's the only move we have.

I hear you. I do. But where we are right now requires us to be forward looking and that means attempting to provide an alternative to ideologies like this. A working class vision that inspires class identity and unionism could win back some of the lonely men lost in 2024.

I think I'm blocked who is it

No one said anything about a revolution in this thread

??? I call trump a fascist and you think I'm maga?

Fuck.

The country moved right as an anti incumbency bias because of inflation. It happened across the world. I am angry with voters but the question now is how they're won back and the answer is by fighting for the working class

Yeah, arguing on bluesky is what got us here. Good insight.

I'm referring to this.

They should. They also don't. But I think the ability to present your record cogently and combat sophists like Trump is an important skill for a politician to have and Biden didn't have it.

You were agreeing with the guy you told to eat shit?

What point are you trying to make

... No, it isn't. Did the candidate with the best record win the election?

"Critics warn of constitutional overreach" is quite the understatement

You're defending his record. I didn't bring up his record. I brought up his candidacy.

What happened is that an open fascist was leading in the polls and the guy who inexplicably decided to run again in his mid 80s couldn't keep up with his lies and articulate his own vision. The only mistake is that he wasn't ousted a year earlier.

It's by definition a concentration camp and a despicable practice already, let alone if he tries to start sending US citizens