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Brit who became German and is moving to France. Runs the #CrossBorderRail project and writes about railways and EU politics. Politically green, lives happily without […] [bridged from https://gruene.social/@jon on the fediverse by https://fed.brid.gy/ ]

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Jon Worth @jon.gruene.social.ap.brid.gy · 2h

Problem

I can't depart Brugge any earlier than 13:00

So that means this connection, scheduled arrival Hamburg 20:58

Night train on a Saturday departs Hamburg at 20:58

And while the RE takes an hour less to Flensburg, I still would not have time to take a […]

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13:11 - 20:58 | 7h 47min | 3 Umstiege
IC 2812
ICE 17
Brugge
• Es liegen Meldungen vor.
Details ^
ICE 653
Hohe Auslastung erwartet aii
ICE 584
Hamburg Hbf

17:21
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Details
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Hamburg Hbf - Stockholm Central
20:53 - 09:29
Sat 25 Oct
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13h 36m
9 View on map
20:53
13h 36m
• Hamburg Hbf
EN 13472
Euro Night
Direction Stockholm Central
Show facilities
Padborg (Denmark)
^
23:57
00:17
03:39
03:41
04:01
Cph Lufthavn
04:35
05:09
Malmo C (Sweden)
Entry not possible
Exit only, no entry allowed
Lund C
Entry not possible
Exit only, no entry allowed
Hassleholm C
Entry not possible
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Jon Worth @jon.gruene.social.ap.brid.gy · 2h

@torstenkammer.bsky.social Agree with all of that. And it makes sense. The question is though: how long will all of this take to complete? These are quite major changes!

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Jon Worth @jon.gruene.social.ap.brid.gy · 2h

And one more piece of info - there was an article in IRJ (can't link as was in print) in November 2024 stating French low cost operator Kevin Speed / Illisto also wants 200m long Avelia Stream trains. So is Alstom's thinking on this a bit more advanced than we thought?

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Jon Worth @jon.gruene.social.ap.brid.gy · 3h

Interrail app finds a train too

17:21
•ll 4G
<
Details
• • •
Hamburg Hbf - Stockholm Central
...
20:53 - 09:29
Sat 25 Oct
= View as list
(
13h 36m
• View on map
20:53
13h 36m
• Hamburg Hbf
EN 13472
Euro Night
Direction Stockholm Central
Show facilities
Padborg (Denmark)
^
23:57
00:17
03:39
03:41
04:01
Cph Lufthavn
04:35
05:09
Malmo C (Sweden)
Entry not possible
Exit only, no entry allowed
Lund C
Entry not possible
Exit only, no entry allowed
Hassleholm C
Entry not possible
Exit only, no entry allowed
Save journey
Planner
My Trip
My Pass
More

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Jon Worth @jon.gruene.social.ap.brid.gy · 3h

@tml @stefanlindbohm @burger_jaap Yes, I think so too. But there is some major data error here somewhere!

Jon Worth @jon.gruene.social.ap.brid.gy · 3h

Eh what is going on here 🤔

SJ reckons there's a train
DB does not

cc @stefanlindbohm @burger_jaap

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Jon Worth @jon.gruene.social.ap.brid.gy · 4h

At ridiculously short notice got asked if I could be in Stockholm, Sweden at 11am on Sunday 26 October

I am in Brugge, Belgium until 1pm on Saturday 25 October

Can I do the trip in 22 hours (well, 21 including the clocks going back)?

NO 😡

No night trains […]

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Stupid timetables for a Brugge - Stockholm trip

Jon Worth @jon.gruene.social.ap.brid.gy · 4h

Ah. But the Avant 114, also a post-Pendolino design, has air suspension (unlike ETR675, ED250, ETR610) - stumbled across this pic on Renfe's website

Ends of 114 carriages showing air suspension

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Jon Worth @jon.gruene.social.ap.brid.gy · 6h

Also the existing ETR610/ETR675/ED250 have four powered carriages and three unpowered ones

The Virgin train will have five powered carriages and two unpowered trailers

So there is going to have to be some reconfiguring of what is where (some heavy components like transformers) normally go in […]

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Jon Worth @jon.gruene.social.ap.brid.gy · 6h

There is a train with this sort of length already - the ICE4

Carriages 28.75m, end carriages 29.1m
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICE_4

But Alstom has to:
- up the power from 5.6MW to 7.2MW
- increase the length of each carriage 1.8m
- improve the suspension (adding air suspension)
- AND keep […]

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Jon Worth @jon.gruene.social.ap.brid.gy · 6h

But existing post-Pendolino designs are 187.4m with 7 carriages (ETR675, ETR610, ED250) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Pendolino

These have 5 26.2m carriages, and 2 28.2m carriages front and back (extra length is the nose, mostly)

To get to 200m you need 5 28m carriages, and 2 30m at front […]

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Jon Worth @jon.gruene.social.ap.brid.gy · 6h

Technical question re. the Avelia Stream trains Virgin wants to buy for Channel Tunnel operations

These are to be 200m long, 7 carriages, as per Virgin's submission to ORR - PDF, page 39 […]

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Main product characteristics
Class
Trainset length
Capacity
Axle load (MNO)
Train weight (MVD)
Max power (at wheel rim)
Multiple unit operation
Traction
Voltage
Signalling
Max operating speed
Alstom Avelia Stream
7-cars, 200m
<17 tons
420 tons
7.4 MW
up to 2 units
Distributed power - 5 powered and 2
trailer carriages
25kV AC, 1.5kV & 3kV DC
ETCS L2 +TVM+KVB
300 km/h

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Oliver Blanthorn @bovine3dom.masto.ai.ap.brid.gy · 8h

@jon hah. anecdotally yesterday i noticed that quick/regular public transport between freiburg and colmar goes right up to the border and then just stops. google claims that the fastest route is via basel...

https://masto.ai/@bovine3dom/115334086198557762

Oliver Blanthorn (@[email protected])

Attached: 2 images an hour ago i opened up my isochrone toy to work on adding caching to it i didn't add caching but i did have fun playing with it for an hour. quite a few depressing cases where the accessible basin neatly follows borders

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Jon Worth @jon.gruene.social.ap.brid.gy · 8h

@Sobex @gspeed0689 My article was even written *before* the Nightjet cancellation! So I had to add that too.

Jon Worth @jon.gruene.social.ap.brid.gy · 8h

@gspeed0689 Ha. Love it! Maybe I can just send them that!

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Garrett Speed @gspeed0689.mapstodon.space.ap.brid.gy · 8h

@jon white space and wildly different font sizes?

A6 index card mock up of a cross border rail article. Title reads "Cross border rail" and includes a drawing of train tracks and the French and German flags.
Below that in large green letters are "the good", followed by in light green "there are tracks!"
At the bottom there is in small red text "the bad" with simulated squiggly text in red below that.

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Jon Worth @jon.gruene.social.ap.brid.gy · 9h

😡

Was asked by a magazine to write a piece about 🇫🇷 🇩🇪 #CrossBorderRail

Editors comment: this is too negative! Can I make it positive?

Well no I can’t. It’s a mess

Régiolis is a mess, start date unknown
TGV/ICE insufficient
Night train cancelled
Deutschlandticket doesn’t work to Strasbourg […]

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Jon Worth @jon.gruene.social.ap.brid.gy · 12h

@pglux.bsky.social it also lost its main industry.

Jon Worth @jon.gruene.social.ap.brid.gy · 23h

@pglux.bsky.social about half full. Lots got off in Laroche Migennes.

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Jon Worth @jon.gruene.social.ap.brid.gy · 1d

And here is the cat interrupted #CrossBorderRail summary video for today https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/sX8UoM7zjpsppEhz21fGSN

#CrossBorderRail live stream - 10/7/2025, 5:57:20 PM

Morning previews of the day ahead, and evening summaries of what I learned during the day. During Jon Worth's #CrossBorderRail Conclusions Tour 2025.

peertube.netzbegruenung.de

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Jon Worth @jon.gruene.social.ap.brid.gy · 1d

This monster was muscling in on the #CrossBorderRail summary video 😆

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Jon Worth @jon.gruene.social.ap.brid.gy · 1d

TER 17779
19:01 Laroche Migennes - Nuits-sous-Ravières 19:38

Distance: 69.9km
Average speed: 113km/h

3 stops:
St-Florentin-Vergigny
Tonnerre
Nuits-sous-Ravieres

This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-conclusions-tour_1266988#10/47.7449/3.6488 […]

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Jon Worth @jon.gruene.social.ap.brid.gy · 1d

#CrossBorderRail Conclusions Tour Train 52 of 76
TER 17779
19:01 Laroche Migennes - Nuits-sous-Ravières 19:38
SNCF for TER Mobigo

Train type: Alstom Régiolis EMU, 2x 6 short carriages
⚡️ (1.5kV dc)
🚲: ✅
🦽: ✅ (step free if station allows)
🛜: ⛔️
🍽️: ⛔️
🧳: 🙂
🧽: 😐 […]

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Jon Worth @jon.gruene.social.ap.brid.gy · 1d

Golden evening on the iron road

Jon Worth @jon.gruene.social.ap.brid.gy · 1d

Pour votre sécurité, il est interdit d'offrir aux passagers des infrastructures adéquates ou un service ferroviaire raisonnable.

Danger !
Il est interdit de traverser les voies

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