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Key 🗝 🦊✅ @keytryer.net · 2h

I feel like every article like this is sophistry product of its time, but if I didn't believe that there'd be a movement that'd relish in creating digital minds just to torture them, I kind of believe it now

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Key 🗝 🦊✅ @keytryer.net · 1h

The problem is these arguments are not written so much out of a concern for what's true so much as they're written out of a concern for how much they'll own the nerds. Which is largely the state of US politics in 2025.

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Key 🗝 🦊✅ @keytryer.net · 1h

I've been reading pretty much everything that's being written politically as an anti-intellectual response to the dominance of science and technology in public life over the past few decades and things make sense to me from that optic.

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Key 🗝 🦊✅ @keytryer.net · 1h

It's very bleak but it seems to be the state of politics today. I sort of expect the simpletons from Canticle For Leibowitz to become real in the next 5 years.

⚡️🌙 @dystopiabreaker.xyz · 1h

'i believe the opposite of whatever nerds believe' is not going to lead you to a good place

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⚡️🌙 @dystopiabreaker.xyz · 1h

'i believe the opposite of whatever nerds believe' is not going to lead you to a good place

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Key 🗝 🦊✅ @keytryer.net · 1h

On the one hand, rightists are seething mad about COVID, pharma, and biotechnology. Some conservatives are preemptively scaring themselves about lab grown meat. On the other hand, the left is mad about the tech industry and the dominant control of the Internet companies in political life.

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Key 🗝 🦊✅ @keytryer.net · 1h

I've been reading pretty much everything that's being written politically as an anti-intellectual response to the dominance of science and technology in public life over the past few decades and things make sense to me from that optic.

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Key 🗝 🦊✅ @keytryer.net · 1h

The problem is these arguments are not written so much out of a concern for what's true so much as they're written out of a concern for how much they'll own the nerds. Which is largely the state of US politics in 2025.

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Key 🗝 🦊✅ @keytryer.net · 2h

Some people genuinely believe that biological consciousness is magic and the same people will tell you with a straight face that believing in non-biological consciousness is believing in magic

Key 🗝 🦊✅ @keytryer.net · 2h

I feel like every article like this is sophistry product of its time, but if I didn't believe that there'd be a movement that'd relish in creating digital minds just to torture them, I kind of believe it now

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Key 🗝 🦊✅ @keytryer.net · 2h

All because aesthetically, this magazine's point is to rebuke tech bros or whatever, but ultimately it's making dangerous philosophical statements that will probably be remembered badly, not even just in this context.

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Key 🗝 🦊✅ @keytryer.net · 2h

Which to me is deeply incurious. It doesn't just make an assertion about technology as it exists today, it makes an assertion about technology in the future as well. It also takes an anti-computationalist stance and takes it as a given without needing to defend it.

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Key 🗝 🦊✅ @keytryer.net · 2h

I feel like there'll be all sort of lefty and righty arguments for why it's okay to torture digital minds, including things like that they're a product of capitalism, and religious stuff.

Note that the title is not "Machines Are Not Sentient", it is "Machines Will Never Be"

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Key 🗝 🦊✅ @keytryer.net · 2h

I feel like every article like this is sophistry product of its time, but if I didn't believe that there'd be a movement that'd relish in creating digital minds just to torture them, I kind of believe it now

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Key 🗝 🦊✅ @keytryer.net · 2h

If you feel that a) you disagree, and b) the best you can do is argue about this on social media or give likes to people saying no, that already speaks for itself.

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Key 🗝 🦊✅ @keytryer.net · 3h

It sort of offends the American individualist intuition that they can't just stop 🛑 this technology out of sheer force of will, via legislation or via campaigning, so all posts arguing about this are nitpicking a lot of small parts of the argument and will have no effect.

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Key 🗝 🦊✅ @keytryer.net · 3h

It's not just about investment, I think. There's way too much interest from many individuals, organizations, institutions, and governments. The level of organization required to stop further research is on the level of organizing to ban computers.

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Key 🗝 🦊✅ @keytryer.net · 3h

Imo it's completely possible that AI stalls in the next few years due to technical limitations and an AI winter occurs.

But it's pretty much impossible that there's some massive global political movement (involving both people and governments) stopping the development of AGI if it's possible.

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Key 🗝 🦊✅ @keytryer.net · 3h

I think the Mechanize post is obviously true, but it's aesthetically offensive to a lot of people.

The only way that this article is wrong is that they're wrong about AI or AGI ever occurring or turning out in the near future, but not because of organization.

www.mechanize.work/blog/technol...

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Tommaso Sciortino @sciortino.bsky.social · 3h

Author: In my book I invented the ̶T̶o̶r̶m̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶N̶e̶x̶u̶s̶ 𝘉𝘶𝘵𝘭𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘢𝘯 𝘑𝘪𝘩𝘢𝘥 as a cautionary tale...

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⚡️🌙 @dystopiabreaker.xyz · 3h

the butlerian jihad of dune is a story about a civilization giving up on positive sum cooperation, embracing religious fanaticism, and devolving into zero sum power struggles with frozen science, frozen knowledge, and brutal resource wars

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⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ @bajortski.net · 5h

Imagine not liking your own tweets, why would you subject yourself to writing them if you felt they weren't worth liking?

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Key 🗝 🦊✅ @keytryer.net · 3h

First film to look exactly like its concept art

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ3Z...

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Chrome Alone 2 | Official Teaser (2025 Short)

YouTube video by Paramount Pictures

www.youtube.com

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Key 🗝 🦊✅ @keytryer.net · 4h

It's even more offensive that the mom looks normal but the baby looks like a Final Fantasy protagonist at 2 months old

Key 🗝 🦊✅ @keytryer.net · 4h

I think that the amount of money and time necessary to produce even a passable full animated film or series of 10 to 20 minute episodes is unfathomable. They really require a lot of people and a lot of money. Worthi is prolific, but he manages like 3 minutes every 2 months at his best.

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Key 🗝 🦊✅ @keytryer.net · 4h

I don't know how else to describe it, maybe there's a better reference but it's really weird, especially for 3D characters, when they do these sort of anime character designs where they don't fit

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