Seize the means

"How do you know it's all BS?!"

Because I have a brain, and I read, and I read everyday

They're looking around for suckers and they found

Ooooh, here's a bunch of accommodating people

Lets put a proposition to them

Markets ≠ capitalism

Planning ≠ socialism

Ownership and control are what matter

Calling the USSR or CCP “socialist” is mostly:

Historical branding

Political shorthand

Cold War simplification

State-owned or state-directed systems with hierarchical control — not socialism as originally defined

None of these require a capitalist extracting rent from labour

Capitalism is a specific ownership and power structure layered on top of markets: private ownership of capital, wage labour, and profit extraction

Marx wanted society as a whole (the working class) to own and manage production

State ownership is not the same as collective ownership

It's a centralization that can diverge from Marx’s vision if workers don’t actually control production

Marx wanted society as a whole (the working class) to own and manage production

State ownership is not the same as collective ownership

It's a centralization that can diverge from Marx’s vision if workers don’t actually control production

Marx wanted society as a whole (the working class) to own and manage production

State ownership is not the same as collective ownership

It's a centralization that can diverge from Marx’s vision if workers don’t actually control production

Marx wanted society as a whole (the working class) to own and manage production

State ownership is not the same as collective ownership

It's a centralization that can diverge from Marx’s vision if workers don’t actually control production

I'm not interested in redistribution

I want a system where hard work and innovation are the highest ideal

I only want the redistribution of the "Means of Production" to society as a whole

I want to live in a society where wealth is already distributed fairly

Democratic Social Market

I'm not interested in redistribution

I want a system where hard work and innovation are the highest ideal

I only want the redistribution of the "Means of Production" to society as a whole

I want to live in a society where wealth is already distributed fairly

Democratic Social Market