Pavithran Narayanan
@npavi.bsky.social
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Content Acquisition Specialist, Wiley | #OpenScience #OpenAccess advocate | #ScholarlyPublishing
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npavi.bsky.social
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jacoates.bsky.social
I think experiments are brilliant (whether I agree with them or not) and I still give talks about PRC but the coordinated effort to make that the dominant model is where I find problems. It shuts down other experiments which is the opposite of what's really needed right not, imo.
npavi.bsky.social
I don't know about vested interests but I think one of the stumbling blocks in P-R-C is due to our lack of clarity & consensus about the "C". We don't know what & how we are going to curate and what that product of curation is gonna look like.

But, yes, transparent, honest, inclusive discussion ✅!
npavi.bsky.social
Yes, so then do we also need to define what *changes* are? Should they only be changes in response to peer review or editorial assessment?

I get your point about preprints just getting "branded" analogous to a journal!
npavi.bsky.social
For point no. 1, I think we then need to define what constitutes a change! Will it be any kind of a change or those resulting only from peer review/editorial assessment? How will it differ from preprint versioning (which will have a separate DOI ayway)?
npavi.bsky.social
I understand that all info could be displayed alongside a preprint. But, don't you think a reviewed preprint, displayed along with review reports (with or without an editorial assessment) & hosted on a different platform could have a separate DOI? "Reviewed preprint" could be a formal category!
npavi.bsky.social
I think it's best to have just 1 identifier if there's no particular necessity for the same object to have multiple ones of the same kind. You rightly refer to versioning & the same may apply to any change an object goes through (like withdrawal or retraction)!
npavi.bsky.social
Oh, I just read through that part & it sounds crazy! I've always remained sceptical of researcher surveys as I don't know if they actually know what they want...!
npavi.bsky.social
(2/2) Formalizing "Reviewed Preprints" as a category will have important implications for the P-R-C model & to meaningfully take forward the work undertaken by preprint reviewing platforms like @reviewcommons.org @prereview.bsky.social @peercommunityin.bsky.social @elife.bsky.social, etc.! #PRC
npavi.bsky.social
Speaks for the impact that @biorxivpreprint.bsky.social & @medrxivpreprint.bsky.social have come to have on the field!

And the exemplary work led by @richardsever.bsky.social @johninglis.bsky.social - both very much deserving of The Royal Society Research Culture Award 2025!
samuelmoore.org
Yeah, I think it does that too. One person I spoke to made it seem like it is now an expectation in his (biomedical) field to preprint, but in the same way that it's an expectation that journal brand is important.
npavi.bsky.social
Preprints need not work against journals, but preprints needn't also be dependent on journals - it'll take quite some time for people to just preprint their work & opt for preprint reviewing (we've just gotten out of not Googling the IF of bioRxiv!!! 😄)!
npavi.bsky.social
This is interesting - it'll make institutions take more (almost complete) responsibility for integrity issues but they may also want to invest significant money (& possibly human resource) to make these checks available for everyone!
richardsever.bsky.social
We'll probably also see orgs like HHMI push things like data checks upstream, in-house (many institutions, including CSHL, require faculty to run plagiarism and image checks before submitting papers). I'm a bit conflicted about this because of COIs, some bad acts better exposed publicly, etc. 2/n
npavi.bsky.social
"To immediately cap APCs risks turning publishers focused on quality into those that may need to focus on quantity..." - APCs have already made publishers focus on quantity (with or without focus on quality)! Sounds ironic!
npavi.bsky.social
Being planned as a hybrid event?
npavi.bsky.social
Yes, and I think many funders now actibely mandating preprints has the potential to positively influence the research community towards embracing preprintsand preprint review!
npavi.bsky.social
James Butcher, in one of his newsletters, wrote: "many funders believe that they should be able to dictate how and where the work they pay for is published. That’s a dangerous, if increasingly well-trodden, path, in my opinion".

Funders seem to be changing the course of publishing quite swiftly!
npavi.bsky.social
Nailed it! But unfortunately for us, #platinum & #diamond are the same (but #green has a chance)!!! 🥲🥲😅 #OpenAccess
npavi.bsky.social
Digressing slightly here: I don't personally agree with the term "free" (for all types of OA & especially for 💎 OA) as it's technically incorrect & nothing is actually *free*! The definition should reflect that all operational & publication costs borne by some one!
npavi.bsky.social
I may probably lean more towards making preprint peer review work better & widespread. Won't reviewers choosing & gravitating towards a paper be far more better than papers of all *qualities* coming to them? The former would be more spontaneous & organic, I guess!